Average EV Car Prices Remain on Par with New Luxury Cars

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Yes.

Policy Basics: Federal Tax Expenditures | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

“Tax expenditures” are subsidies delivered through the tax code as deductions, exclusions, and other tax preferences. In fiscal year 2018, tax expenditures reduced federal income tax revenue by roughly $1.3 trillion, and they reduced payroll taxes and other revenues by an additional $140 billion.

www.cbpp.org

That’s hilarious. It’s like you don’t even possess the ability to differentiate reality.

 

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Your time is past. People who are part of the "old ways" are expected to just sit an kvetch.

Let the future be the future. You are no longer important.

The predictable surprises haven’t even begun to begin yet.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

The predictable surprises haven’t even begun to begin yet.

No one expects new technology to advance without problems, (Well, folks who never spent any time in industry developing new technologies might not know that).

The key is that we are looking at what a revolution in transportation looks like. You are the old man sitting on his porch in 1915 complaining that the horse will never be supplanted.

Gasoline powered cars will ultimately go away. Sorry to break it to you. Right now they enjoy an unfair advantage in the market by being the primary mode of transport and a HUGE infrastructure that took a CENTURY to establish is firmly in place. But that's not going to be forever.

When I was at a transportation fuels conference in Norway about 20 years ago they were saying that fuel cells would dominate if H2 storage could be cracked. If not then fuel cells would remain a novelty and only part of the transportation sector. So far that's true. But not so for EV's.

There's still problems, no one is denying that. It would absurd if there WASN'T some problem.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

That’s hilarious. It’s like you don’t even possess the ability to differentiate reality.

Again, you are NOT arguing with me. You are arguing with the economics folks who wrote the article.

(In reality this actually DOES seem to be a legitimate divergence in opinion among economists, but it's not like YOU could figure that out. You just lob ex cathedra statements while I always support my claim on this matter. If you would like I can help you learn how to defend your positions better. PM me if you need some help.)

 

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No one expects new technology to advance without problems, (Well, folks who never spent any time in industry developing new technologies might not know that).

The key is that we are looking at what a revolution in transportation looks like. You are the old man sitting on his porch in 1915 complaining that the horse will never be supplanted.

Gasoline powered cars will ultimately go away. Sorry to break it to you. Right now they enjoy an unfair advantage in the market by being the primary mode of transport and a HUGE infrastructure that took a CENTURY to establish is firmly in place. But that's not going to be forever.

When I was at a transportation fuels conference in Norway about 20 years ago they were saying that fuel cells would dominate if H2 storage could be cracked. If not then fuel cells would remain a novelty and only part of the transportation sector. So far that's true. But not so for EV's.

There's still problems, no one is denying that. It would absurd if there WASN'T some problem.

Totally different scale when the government mandates it. The predictable surprises are going to be glorious.

 

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Again, you are NOT arguing with me. You are arguing with the economics folks who wrote the article.

(In reality this actually DOES seem to be a legitimate divergence in opinion among economists, but it's not like YOU could figure that out. You just lob ex cathedra statements while I always support my claim on this matter. If you would like I can help you learn how to defend your positions better. PM me if you need some help.)

Actually I’m not. I’m arguing with idiots who have twisted reality to grind an axe.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Actually I’m not. I’m arguing with idiots who have twisted reality to grind an axe.

Then don't aim it at me. I'm merely pointing out what economists say. Are you also an economist? If so I think you can muster a more compelling argument than an ex cathedra claim.

Given that you have yet to do so I will assume you are another know-nothing rando taking a break from your online porn trawl.

 

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Then don't aim it at me. I'm merely pointing out what economists say. Are you also an economist? If so I think you can muster a more compelling argument than an ex cathedra claim.

Given that you have yet to do so I will assume you are another know-nothing rando taking a break from your online porn trawl.

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

 

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ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

 

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ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What part of a Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive did you not understand?

ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

 

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ANd, again, that can include tax incentives. As I've cited NUMEROUS times now. A money grant can be in the direct form (actual money coming in from outside) vs an indirect form (ie money that is no longer REQUIRED to be spent, ie tax incentives).

Since taxes are REQUIRED to be paid, if you are given a tax break you are getting money back. That's effectively the same thing.

And it's why companies spend BILLIONS of dollars on tax strategies.

According to you it’s any deduction that reduces taxable income.

A Subsidy is a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive.

 

[krichton]

8 years is only how long the warranty is. The battery lifespan on a tesla is rated for 300k miles on the standard range tesla and 500k miles on the long range tesla.

 

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8 years is only how long the warranty is. The battery lifespan on a tesla is rated for 300k miles on the standard range tesla and 500k miles on the long range tesla.

What level of battery performance is warrantied? If EV batteries are anything like cell phone batteries performance degrades over time. Especially in extreme temperatures.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

The REAL future of driving an EV in the US................

 

[there4eyeM]

The ironic part of that picture is that ONE horse is pulling a car. It only requires about 12 hp to propel a car at 80 kph. What is the possible need for the huge vehicles with absurd horsepower, beyond childish ego?

 

[Captain Caveman]

The ironic part of that picture is that ONE horse is pulling a car. It only requires about 12 hp to propel a car at 80 kph. What is the possible need for the huge vehicles with absurd horsepower, beyond childish ego?

Money and choice.

 

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The ironic part of that picture is that ONE horse is pulling a car. It only requires about 12 hp to propel a car at 80 kph. What is the possible need for the huge vehicles with absurd horsepower, beyond childish ego?

Hauling, towing, etc.