Congress has already disqualified Trump from the ballot

[Faun]

Wrong, chuckie.
He simply escaped impeachment as impeachment requires a 2/3 vote.
There were far more than half, 50 votes.
Also, impeachment is a political mechanism NOT a legal remedy.

Convicted = guilty
Not convicted = not guilty

 

[Nostra]

"We have a criminal justice system in this country. We have civil litigation. And former presidents are not immune from being held accountable by either one."

So, He was still exonerated, Cletus.

 

[noonereal]

Horseshit.

You leftards are fucking LYING SCUM.

I am a life long Republican.

 

[Nostra]

you mean like the GOP in the Senate?

OK.

No, like the Dimwingers in the Senate.

 

[noonereal]

Convicted = guilty
Not convicted = not guilty

Not how it works.
This was neither a Civil or Criminal trial.

 

[Nostra]

Not in any court anywhere in this country.

In every court, moron.

 

[Nostra]

Jury has nothing to do with it, Dumbfuck. Our justice system is what allowed it to happen.

The idiot jury didn't vote not guilty?

 

[Nostra]

Post 137.
Every post in this thread is in defense of or opposition to #137

Trump as found Guilty by a clear majority of the Senate.
Trump could not be removed from office because the Senate vote did not achieve a 2/3 majority.
Failure to convict is not by any measure an indication of a lack of guilt.

Not Guilty <> Exoneration
Except in MAGADUMIA

Nope.
.Not guilty= Exonerated.

Look it up, Simp.

 

[Nostra]

Again, I never said Trump was exonerated. I said he was not convicted.

But he was exonerated, Jethro.

 

[Concerned American]

How do you interpret 14/3?

SCOTUS is leaning 9-0 against your interpretation. There is that.

 

[meaner gene]

But he was exonerated, Jethro.

Actually not. There are different thresholds for different actions.
Impeachment takes a simple majority.
Removal from office takes a 2/3rds vote.
Any determination by congress (ex: law or finding) only takes a simple majority of both houses.

In the impeachment over January 6th, a majority of both houses made the determination that Trump did what he was charged with.

But the senate failed to reach the 2/3rds majority needed to remove Trump from office.

 

[Dadoalex]

No, like the Dimwingers in the Senate.

The jury acquitted OJ just like the GOP acquitted Trump.

You might want to study up on your similes buttboy.

 

[Dadoalex]

In every court, moron.

Yes, in every court in the country, you are a moron.
But in no court is "not guilty" = "innocent"

 

[Dadoalex]

Nope.
.Not guilty= Exonerated.

Look it up, Simp.

Not in any court in any country except the MAGADUMIA supreme court.
Probably explains your stupidity.
But I'm sticking with the tiny mind poop thrower.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes, in every court in the country, you are a moron.
But in no court is "not guilty" = "innocent"

Remember, unlike congress, a jury has to form a unanimous verdict. So all 12 have to vote guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt) , or all 12 vote not guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt).
There is no innocent (beyond a reasonable doubt) hence no actual determination of "innocent"

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Cool!
DeSantis needs to get back in then!

 

[meaner gene]

Cool!
DeSantis needs to get back in then!

This is an election, not the hokey pokey

You put your right foot in, you take your right foot out, you put your right foot in and you shake it all about. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. That’s what it’s all about.

You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out, you put your left foot in and you shake it all about. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. That’s what it’s all about.

 

[BlindBoo]

So, He was still exonerated, Cletus.

Not by the Justice Department, Skippy.

 

[Nobody911]

An excellent opinion piece from Tristan Snell on CNN explains that in the course of Trump's second impeachment, a majority of the House and of the Senate voted that the events of January 6 were an insurrection and that Trump incited it. If the Supreme Court does not obey the clear text of our Constitution, this democracy is at an end.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/08/opinions/trump-supreme-court-oral-arguments-election-snell/index.html

The role of the Supreme Court in the US government is to interpret the Constitution and ensure that all laws and actions comply with its provisions. While the Congress has the power to impeach and remove a president, the Supreme Court's role is to review legal challenges and ensure that the Constitution is upheld.

In the context of Trump's second impeachment, the Supreme Court's role would likely come into play if there were legal challenges to the impeachment process or if there were questions about the constitutionality of the impeachment itself.

However, it is not the Supreme Court's role to simply rubber stamp the decisions of the Congress. The Supreme Court must independently review the legal arguments and ensure that the Constitution is upheld, regardless of the political implications.

If the Supreme Court were to ignore the clear text of the Constitution and simply side with one political party or the other, it would undermine the foundational principles of the US democracy. The separation of powers and the checks and balances between the branches of government are essential to the functioning of a democratic system.

If the Supreme Court were to abandon its role as an impartial interpreter of the Constitution, it would be a grave threat to the democracy.

In conclusion, while the Congress and the Supreme Court both play important roles in the US government, their functions are distinct. The Supreme Court must uphold the Constitution and ensure that the rule of law is followed, regardless of political considerations. Failure to do so would be a betrayal of the principles upon which the US democracy is built.

 

[Nostra]

Actually not. There are different thresholds for different actions.
Impeachment takes a simple majority.
Removal from office takes a 2/3rds vote.
Any determination by congress (ex: law or finding) only takes a simple majority of both houses.

In the impeachment over January 6th, a majority of both houses made the determination that Trump did what he was charged with.

But the senate failed to reach the 2/3rds majority needed to remove Trump from office.

No stupid, the Senate vote is to convict or acquit.

Acquit means exonerated.

I provided links proving all this earlier in the thread. Go get educated.