Democrats Move Towards Violent Confrontation

[Mac1958]

Trump: Civil War

The Trumpsters are gettin' all fired up 'n stuff.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great idea, except most of the educators are making students more stupid than the previous batch.

That's probably more their parents.

Yep, no doubt more parents are looking the other way and expecting teachers to raise their kids.

I would say. Wouldn't you agree that, in your household, it wouldnt matter that the kids had crappy teachers? I stay involved, myself. I expect my kids to tell me when they are struggling, and we figure it out together. I dont let them fall behind. It makes all the difference.

Yes it does.

Years ago my next door neighbor bought a portable basketball hoop. Before you knew it, we had every kid in a five block area here.

They played from the time they got home from school until way past dark non stop. A few times I threatened to call the cops. I gave them until 10:00 pm, and that was it.

These were not just teens, these were kids as young as 10. I wondered WTF their parent(s) were at? Who lets their kids stay out that late on a school night? Didn't they have homework to do? Didn't they have to shower and get enough sleep for the next school day?

The best teachers in the country can't help kids with parents like that.

You were going to call the cops because kids were at their friends house playing basketball at night? Some fucking neighbor you are.

Yes, if I tell them it's time to stop, then it's time to stop. That's why we have noise ordinance laws here. I'd like to see how long you would put up with a bouncing ball and kids yelling and screaming for hours on end. I think I'm a damn good neighbor.

 

[Dragonlady]

Soliciting campaign aid from a foreign national is a crime.

Then why isn't Hillary in jail for the Steele dossier?

Because she didn't solicit aid from a foreign country.

There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies.

It is only illegal if one acts in a way that is harmful to the rights of others, for personal gain.
Dirt on an opponent can be personal gain but still not illegal if the dirt is about something the other person did that was illegal and should be exposed.

"
There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies."

no it isn't.

The only way Trump could be wrong to solicit aid from an ally is if it was for his own personal advancement only.
And that is not likely because if Hunter Biden did something wrong, it would be the legal duty of Trump to investigate that.

If Hunter Biden did something illegal in the Ukraine, it is not the responsibility of the President to investigate because the USA has no responsibility for what its citizens do abroad. In fact, it's none of the President's concern what Americans are doing abroad.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's strange that those who are against impeachment are a smaller percentage than who are for it but yet only one side has to hit over 50%? Do you not think you're a tad biased? However currently over 50% of Americans in the latest polls are for impeachment inquiries and this is a very fluid thing.

Not really. If you ask those people what the impeachment inquiries are about, more than 80% couldn't give you an answer.

Well, admitting they dont know is better than the lies you cultists are making up.

Lies? Such as???

Conspiracy theories about the Clinton server somehow now being in the Ukraine. Or that Biden was pushing to fire the prosecutor because of his son, regardless of the fact the company was being investigated for a period of time when he wasn't with the company, or that the investigation at that time was dormant or that the EU and IMF were also calling for the prosecutor to be fired because he wasn't prosecuting corruption.

We don't know that. Only leftist media is reporting the investigation was over.

But hey, I'll give you the same question you give us about Trump's tax returns. If he's got nothing to hide, what are the Democrats so worried about?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then why isn't Hillary in jail for the Steele dossier?

Because she didn't solicit aid from a foreign country.

There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies.

It is only illegal if one acts in a way that is harmful to the rights of others, for personal gain.
Dirt on an opponent can be personal gain but still not illegal if the dirt is about something the other person did that was illegal and should be exposed.

"
There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies."

no it isn't.

The only way Trump could be wrong to solicit aid from an ally is if it was for his own personal advancement only.
And that is not likely because if Hunter Biden did something wrong, it would be the legal duty of Trump to investigate that.

If Hunter Biden did something illegal in the Ukraine, it is not the responsibility of the President to investigate because the USA has no responsibility for what its citizens do abroad. In fact, it's none of the President's concern what Americans are doing abroad.

He was not a citizen, he was the vice President acting on behalf of the USA. Yes, that is our responsibility.

 

[DBA]

Eliminating the electoral college would also eliminate the representation of the vast majority of the states in the country and put control in the most populated states.

Horseshit. It would make every vote count. Trump lost by about 3M popular votes . We would not be living this nightmare if it were not for the electoral college. We would not have been in Iraq either,

Big cities vote Democrat. We all know that and we all know why. Those living in big cities have virtually no idea about life outside their bubbles. The vast majority of states are red. They need representation too. We don't all live in ants with crime around virtually every corner, thus we have different concerns. The founding fathers got it right. You don't like it because the left wing city folks can't decide all the elections.

What nightmare are you living because of Trump? Better economy than under Obama(that is a fact). Low gas prices despite the issues in the Middle East because we are more independent now. Lower taxes for virtually everybody? Pay rising faster for the bottom 10% than for the rest? Oh wait, I know. Trump opposed men using women's restrooms. That must be the nightmare to which you refer.

 

[DBA]

It's strange that those who are against impeachment are a smaller percentage than who are for it but yet only one side has to hit over 50%? Do you not think you're a tad biased? However currently over 50% of Americans in the latest polls are for impeachment inquiries and this is a very fluid thing.

Not really. If you ask those people what the impeachment inquiries are about, more than 80% couldn't give you an answer.

Well, admitting they dont know is better than the lies you cultists are making up.

Lies? Such as???

Conspiracy theories about the Clinton server somehow now being in the Ukraine. Or that Biden was pushing to fire the prosecutor because of his son, regardless of the fact the company was being investigated for a period of time when he wasn't with the company, or that the investigation at that time was dormant or that the EU and IMF were also calling for the prosecutor to be fired because he wasn't prosecuting corruption.

The fired investigator said point blank that he was actively investigating the company and that he felt he was fired because of it and the pressure being put on his superiors by the US administration. Hunter was on the board and would have gotten tied up in the mess.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't remember anyone calling for Trump's impeachment over Kavanaugh and I hate to break it to you the Russia thing turned up quite a bit of evidence of wrong doing by the Trump administration to include obstruction of justice by the president. Maybe not elect a prick in the future.

They attacked Kavanaugh because he was Trump's pick and wanted to tarnish Trump's decision making.

We've all read it, Trump points out that the relationship between the U.S> and Ukraine isn't equal, stating that Ukraine doesn't do enough for us and then goes onto ask for a couple of favors. One of those asking a foreign government to intervene in an upcoming election by finding dirt on one of his opponents.

Only you lefties were ordered to believe it has anything to do with the election. Fair minded people understand that this has to do with a VP that got his kid an incredible job for a reason. The company didn't hire that washed up coke head for his brilliance. They didn't hire him for his knowledge. What do you think they were expecting for that kind of money?

Withy you people on the left, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, you call it a dog because your puppet masters told you that's what it was.

Then there is the real world where public opinion on impeachment is often a driver for whether Congress takes any action. If support for impeachment were in the low twenties for example then regardless of whether there was an impeachable offense or not Congress most likely would not act. Thankfully that is not the case.

Two duds in a row, you guys really know how to pick them.

So what you're saying is that the Democrats only do their job if the public approves of it? If that's the case, maybe it's time to start voting Republican, because impeachment was not popular during Clinton either.

 

[Dragonlady]

Because she didn't solicit aid from a foreign country.

There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies.

It is only illegal if one acts in a way that is harmful to the rights of others, for personal gain.
Dirt on an opponent can be personal gain but still not illegal if the dirt is about something the other person did that was illegal and should be exposed.

"
There is nothing wrong with soliciting aid from a foreign country.
That is the whole purpose of having allies."

no it isn't.

The only way Trump could be wrong to solicit aid from an ally is if it was for his own personal advancement only.
And that is not likely because if Hunter Biden did something wrong, it would be the legal duty of Trump to investigate that.

If Hunter Biden did something illegal in the Ukraine, it is not the responsibility of the President to investigate because the USA has no responsibility for what its citizens do abroad. In fact, it's none of the President's concern what Americans are doing abroad.

He was not a citizen, he was the vice President acting on behalf of the USA. Yes, that is our responsibility.

HUNTER BIDEN was the never the Vice-President, nor was he acting on behalf of the USA.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's strange that those who are against impeachment are a smaller percentage than who are for it but yet only one side has to hit over 50%? Do you not think you're a tad biased? However currently over 50% of Americans in the latest polls are for impeachment inquiries and this is a very fluid thing.

Not really. If you ask those people what the impeachment inquiries are about, more than 80% couldn't give you an answer.

Well, admitting they dont know is better than the lies you cultists are making up.

Lies? Such as???

Conspiracy theories about the Clinton server somehow now being in the Ukraine. Or that Biden was pushing to fire the prosecutor because of his son, regardless of the fact the company was being investigated for a period of time when he wasn't with the company, or that the investigation at that time was dormant or that the EU and IMF were also calling for the prosecutor to be fired because he wasn't prosecuting corruption.

The fired investigator said point blank that he was actively investigating the company and that he felt he was fired because of it and the pressure being put on his superiors by the US administration. Hunter was on the board and would have gotten tied up in the mess.

The fired investigator is NOT credible. He was fired for corruption, and he was fired because he WASN'T investigating the company Biden worked for, not because he was investigating them. Hunter Biden would not have been caught up because he wasn't working for Burisma during the period that was being investigated.

Trump's talking points are lies and conspiracy theories.

 

[JoeB131]

Big cities vote Democrat. We all know that and we all know why. Those living in big cities have virtually no idea about life outside their bubbles. The vast majority of states are red. They need representation too. We don't all live in ants with crime around virtually every corner, thus we have different concerns. The founding fathers got it right. You don't like it because the left wing city folks can't decide all the elections.

Yes, you guys have used various tricks to rob the majority of majority rule... Gerrymandering, Voter Suppression, the Electoral Anachronism.

The reality- if we put everything to a popular vote, the country would look a lot more liberal than conservative.

What nightmare are you living because of Trump? Better economy than under Obama(that is a fact). Low gas prices despite the issues in the Middle East because we are more independent now. Lower taxes for virtually everybody? Pay rising faster for the bottom 10% than for the rest? Oh wait, I know. Trump opposed men using women's restrooms. That must be the nightmare to which you refer.

Okay, let's look at that.

Gas prices are up at 2.86 a gallon where I'm at. So FAIL.

Lower taxes are an awful idea if you are running up deficits. In this economy, we SHOULD be posting surpluses and paying down the national debt and setting aside money to secure Social Security and Medicare. Not giving tax cuts to billionaires who don't need them and don't deserve them.

The bottom 40% still controls 1% of the wealth... Wealth inequality is still a thing.

 

[JoeB131]

The fired investigator said point blank that he was actively investigating the company and that he felt he was fired because of it and the pressure being put on his superiors by the US administration. Hunter was on the board and would have gotten tied up in the mess.

Yeah, that guy doesn't have much credibility. Funny this is the only person who has ever been let go from a job you think has a legitimate complaint, even though the EU, IMF and Ukrainian Parliament all called for his removal for corruption.

 

[occupied]

I'm tired of the empty threats, have your beer hall putsch 2.0 already.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Have you ever seen those “rolling thunder” guys? Most of them couldn’t make it up the steps of the capitol building.

It’s more like “rolling oxygen tanks”.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Then are you suggesting that professors and colleges operate for free? If the individual doesn't pay for it, somebody has to.

No. I m suggesting that we invest in education and reject that anti intellectualism of Republicans

Great idea, except most of the educators are making students more stupid than the previous batch.

You must be highly educated

 

[DBA]

Not really. If you ask those people what the impeachment inquiries are about, more than 80% couldn't give you an answer.

Well, admitting they dont know is better than the lies you cultists are making up.

Lies? Such as???

Conspiracy theories about the Clinton server somehow now being in the Ukraine. Or that Biden was pushing to fire the prosecutor because of his son, regardless of the fact the company was being investigated for a period of time when he wasn't with the company, or that the investigation at that time was dormant or that the EU and IMF were also calling for the prosecutor to be fired because he wasn't prosecuting corruption.

The fired investigator said point blank that he was actively investigating the company and that he felt he was fired because of it and the pressure being put on his superiors by the US administration. Hunter was on the board and would have gotten tied up in the mess.

The fired investigator is NOT credible. He was fired for corruption, and he was fired because he WASN'T investigating the company Biden worked for, not because he was investigating them. Hunter Biden would not have been caught up because he wasn't working for Burisma during the period that was being investigated.

Trump's talking points are lies and conspiracy theories.

So Burisma was or was not being investigated? Hunter Biden was working for Burisma. They were being investigated for tax evasion and Hunter's pay was specifically in the cross hairs. You guys are totally duped.

 

[DBA]

Big cities vote Democrat. We all know that and we all know why. Those living in big cities have virtually no idea about life outside their bubbles. The vast majority of states are red. They need representation too. We don't all live in ants with crime around virtually every corner, thus we have different concerns. The founding fathers got it right. You don't like it because the left wing city folks can't decide all the elections.

Yes, you guys have used various tricks to rob the majority of majority rule... Gerrymandering, Voter Suppression, the Electoral Anachronism.

The reality- if we put everything to a popular vote, the country would look a lot more liberal than conservative.

What nightmare are you living because of Trump? Better economy than under Obama(that is a fact). Low gas prices despite the issues in the Middle East because we are more independent now. Lower taxes for virtually everybody? Pay rising faster for the bottom 10% than for the rest? Oh wait, I know. Trump opposed men using women's restrooms. That must be the nightmare to which you refer.

Okay, let's look at that.

Gas prices are up at 2.86 a gallon where I'm at. So FAIL.

Lower taxes are an awful idea if you are running up deficits. In this economy, we SHOULD be posting surpluses and paying down the national debt and setting aside money to secure Social Security and Medicare. Not giving tax cuts to billionaires who don't need them and don't deserve them.

The bottom 40% still controls 1% of the wealth... Wealth inequality is still a thing.

The country would be more liberal due to deperndency and the popuplations of inner cities. I don't disagree with that. That doesn't preclude the fact that people in non-urban areas, with a different set of problems, needs representation too.

Your gas prices are higher likely because of your liberal states gas taxes. Blame our idiot Democrat politicians for that.

I agree we should be spending less. That is true for both parties, however, cutting taxes ACROSS THE BOARD is the way to organically stimulate the economy. Raising taxes is an inorganic short term fix which will ultimately result in less tax revenue. Social Security should be funded, but it isn't due to payouts to people that have never paid in or get back far more than they every put in. Democrats and Republicans raiding the fund doesn't help either.

Wealth inequality is a thing, so is loafing. When you Democrats work on the latter, we can work on the former. The ironic thing is that legislating against wealth inequality creates more loafers.

 

[DBA]

The fired investigator said point blank that he was actively investigating the company and that he felt he was fired because of it and the pressure being put on his superiors by the US administration. Hunter was on the board and would have gotten tied up in the mess.

Yeah, that guy doesn't have much credibility. Funny this is the only person who has ever been let go from a job you think has a legitimate complaint, even though the EU, IMF and Ukrainian Parliament all called for his removal for corruption.

Yeah, he doesn't have credbility because it doesn't fit the narrative you want to push. We all know how it works with libs.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump: Civil War

The Trumpsters are gettin' all fired up 'n stuff.

Trump is preparing his minions for violence

 

[DBA]

Trump: Civil War

The Trumpsters are gettin' all fired up 'n stuff.

Trump is preparing his minions for violence

I would like to think that any true American would be opposed to the Socialism the left is pushing, but obviously, we have reached the point where about 1/2 the country are dependant, ignorant sheep and will support any candidate that promises "free" stuff.