Do liberals even like this country?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

Apparent to who?

Oh, because you get all the simple symbolism out, wave your flags around, tell anyone who doesn't do your mindless patriotism that they don't love the country.

You say you love the country, do you love DEMOCRATS? Because they're a part of the country, which means, you, loving every inch of the country, means you love Democrats. If you don't love Democrats Ray, you can fuck off to some country that doesn't have Democrats, can't you?

That would be nice. If I never lived around another liberal again, I would have no complaints. In fact if they moved out of my suburb, my property value would double overnight. So where is this capitalist country you speak of that I should move to?

No, I don't love Democrats; only the ones in my family of course. Loving your country does not mean loving every single person in it. Loving your country means you believe you are in the best place in the world. Loving your country means you love the roots as well as the development. Loving this country means you resist Socialism and Communism that are available to any liberal in this country now. Loving this country means you don't want to be like everybody else.

Oh! And as for the OP, yes, I was talking about you. You with your "It's better here and it's better there." I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of people who live here and complain about this unique place we live and tell me how it's better in other places. And again......you never hear Republicans saying the same thing. You never hear or read Republicans telling anybody how much better another country is and how we should replicate them. That is what love of your country means, and liberals don't have that.......apparently...

I'm sure, actually positive, that if you didn't live around another Liberal again, you'd find other things to hate.

Oh, loving your country doesn't meaning loving everyone in it, or loving everything about your country. How convenient AFTER you just said Liberals don't like the US because they don't like some things about it. Do you not see the MASSIVE contradiction there? Come on Ray, I thought you were better than that, but it turns out you're just another partisan hack making facts fit the script, and if they don't, get rid of them, they're fake news.

Loving the US does NOT mean that you support the policies that YOU like.

Yes, I know you were talking about me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of your bullshit too Ray. Because all you seem to do lately is bullshit. There's no logic to your posts. It's simple black and white. Republicans have the sun shining out of their fucking asses, and Democrats are evil.

If a Democrat says "today is Sunday" you will think they are wrong. If a Republican says "today is Sunday" they are an enlightened person who is clearly right.

I'm used to people coming on here and talking absolute bullshit. Just because you make a post about it, doesn't make you right.

Here is your "argument" in a nutshell.

Liberals hate some things about America, therefore they hate America.
Conservatives hate some things about America, therefore they love America.

Seriously?

Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.
 
It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

Apparent to who?

Oh, because you get all the simple symbolism out, wave your flags around, tell anyone who doesn't do your mindless patriotism that they don't love the country.

You say you love the country, do you love DEMOCRATS? Because they're a part of the country, which means, you, loving every inch of the country, means you love Democrats. If you don't love Democrats Ray, you can fuck off to some country that doesn't have Democrats, can't you?

That would be nice. If I never lived around another liberal again, I would have no complaints. In fact if they moved out of my suburb, my property value would double overnight. So where is this capitalist country you speak of that I should move to?

No, I don't love Democrats; only the ones in my family of course. Loving your country does not mean loving every single person in it. Loving your country means you believe you are in the best place in the world. Loving your country means you love the roots as well as the development. Loving this country means you resist Socialism and Communism that are available to any liberal in this country now. Loving this country means you don't want to be like everybody else.

Oh! And as for the OP, yes, I was talking about you. You with your "It's better here and it's better there." I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of people who live here and complain about this unique place we live and tell me how it's better in other places. And again......you never hear Republicans saying the same thing. You never hear or read Republicans telling anybody how much better another country is and how we should replicate them. That is what love of your country means, and liberals don't have that.......apparently...

I'm sure, actually positive, that if you didn't live around another Liberal again, you'd find other things to hate.

Oh, loving your country doesn't meaning loving everyone in it, or loving everything about your country. How convenient AFTER you just said Liberals don't like the US because they don't like some things about it. Do you not see the MASSIVE contradiction there? Come on Ray, I thought you were better than that, but it turns out you're just another partisan hack making facts fit the script, and if they don't, get rid of them, they're fake news.

Loving the US does NOT mean that you support the policies that YOU like.

Yes, I know you were talking about me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of your bullshit too Ray. Because all you seem to do lately is bullshit. There's no logic to your posts. It's simple black and white. Republicans have the sun shining out of their fucking asses, and Democrats are evil.

If a Democrat says "today is Sunday" you will think they are wrong. If a Republican says "today is Sunday" they are an enlightened person who is clearly right.

I'm used to people coming on here and talking absolute bullshit. Just because you make a post about it, doesn't make you right.

Here is your "argument" in a nutshell.

Liberals hate some things about America, therefore they hate America.
Conservatives hate some things about America, therefore they love America.

Seriously?

Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.

Then I have no idea what you're reading when you read my posts. My point was that Republicans never try to compare other countries to ours because we believe we have the greatest country in the world. Liberals do not; always telling us how great it is in other places.

The fact that liberals want to change just about everything in America makes me wonder if you people even like this country--not because Democrat policies are treason, but because you are always telling us how wrong our country is compared to others because their systems are so superior to ours.

Bottom line is it seems we Republicans love our country while you on the left love other countries.

I guess I'll never understand some people. Kind of reminds me of what our state is doing now which is putting up sound barriers on the highways to make it a tad bit quieter for the homes that border the highway. To a liberal, this is logical. To a conservative, WTF did you buy a house next to the Fn highway for??? Now we are wasting tens of millions of dollars because you clowns bought cheaper homes by the highway, and then complained to your representatives about the noise!

So to me, it makes no sense when liberals complain we are not like other countries instead of packing your bags and going to these other countries. If it's so great there with their socialized medical care, their gun laws, their taxation, their election system, their education system, move and live in your utopia. But no. Instead, stay here and complain.
 
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Apparent to who?

Oh, because you get all the simple symbolism out, wave your flags around, tell anyone who doesn't do your mindless patriotism that they don't love the country.

You say you love the country, do you love DEMOCRATS? Because they're a part of the country, which means, you, loving every inch of the country, means you love Democrats. If you don't love Democrats Ray, you can fuck off to some country that doesn't have Democrats, can't you?

That would be nice. If I never lived around another liberal again, I would have no complaints. In fact if they moved out of my suburb, my property value would double overnight. So where is this capitalist country you speak of that I should move to?

No, I don't love Democrats; only the ones in my family of course. Loving your country does not mean loving every single person in it. Loving your country means you believe you are in the best place in the world. Loving your country means you love the roots as well as the development. Loving this country means you resist Socialism and Communism that are available to any liberal in this country now. Loving this country means you don't want to be like everybody else.

Oh! And as for the OP, yes, I was talking about you. You with your "It's better here and it's better there." I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of people who live here and complain about this unique place we live and tell me how it's better in other places. And again......you never hear Republicans saying the same thing. You never hear or read Republicans telling anybody how much better another country is and how we should replicate them. That is what love of your country means, and liberals don't have that.......apparently...

I'm sure, actually positive, that if you didn't live around another Liberal again, you'd find other things to hate.

Oh, loving your country doesn't meaning loving everyone in it, or loving everything about your country. How convenient AFTER you just said Liberals don't like the US because they don't like some things about it. Do you not see the MASSIVE contradiction there? Come on Ray, I thought you were better than that, but it turns out you're just another partisan hack making facts fit the script, and if they don't, get rid of them, they're fake news.

Loving the US does NOT mean that you support the policies that YOU like.

Yes, I know you were talking about me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of your bullshit too Ray. Because all you seem to do lately is bullshit. There's no logic to your posts. It's simple black and white. Republicans have the sun shining out of their fucking asses, and Democrats are evil.

If a Democrat says "today is Sunday" you will think they are wrong. If a Republican says "today is Sunday" they are an enlightened person who is clearly right.

I'm used to people coming on here and talking absolute bullshit. Just because you make a post about it, doesn't make you right.

Here is your "argument" in a nutshell.

Liberals hate some things about America, therefore they hate America.
Conservatives hate some things about America, therefore they love America.

Seriously?

Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.

Then I have no idea what you're reading when you read my posts. My point was that Republicans never try to compare other countries to ours because we believe we have the greatest country in the world. Liberals do not; always telling us how great it is in other places.

The fact that liberals want to change just about everything in America makes me wonder if you people even like this country--not because Democrat policies are treason, but because you are always telling us how wrong our country is compared to others because their systems are so superior to ours.

Bottom line is it seems we Republicans love our country while you on the left love other countries.

I guess I'll never understand some people. Kind of reminds me of what our state is doing now which is putting up sound barriers on the highways to make it a tad bit quieter for the homes that border the highway. To a liberal, this is logical. To a conservative, WTF did you buy a house next to the Fn highway for??? Now we are wasting tens of millions of dollars because you clowns bought cheaper homes by the highway, and then complained to your representatives about the noise!

So to me, it makes no sense when liberals complain we are not like other countries instead of packing your bags and going to these other countries. If it's so great there with their socialized medical care, their gun laws, their taxation, their election system, their education system, move and live in your utopia. But no. Instead, stay here and complain.
The fact that you go through life with blinders on puzzles me

Why wouldn't you want to look at practices used by other countries? If France comes up with a life saving medical procedure.......should we ignore it because it would be admitting we are not the best at everything?
 
That would be nice. If I never lived around another liberal again, I would have no complaints. In fact if they moved out of my suburb, my property value would double overnight. So where is this capitalist country you speak of that I should move to?

No, I don't love Democrats; only the ones in my family of course. Loving your country does not mean loving every single person in it. Loving your country means you believe you are in the best place in the world. Loving your country means you love the roots as well as the development. Loving this country means you resist Socialism and Communism that are available to any liberal in this country now. Loving this country means you don't want to be like everybody else.

Oh! And as for the OP, yes, I was talking about you. You with your "It's better here and it's better there." I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of people who live here and complain about this unique place we live and tell me how it's better in other places. And again......you never hear Republicans saying the same thing. You never hear or read Republicans telling anybody how much better another country is and how we should replicate them. That is what love of your country means, and liberals don't have that.......apparently...

I'm sure, actually positive, that if you didn't live around another Liberal again, you'd find other things to hate.

Oh, loving your country doesn't meaning loving everyone in it, or loving everything about your country. How convenient AFTER you just said Liberals don't like the US because they don't like some things about it. Do you not see the MASSIVE contradiction there? Come on Ray, I thought you were better than that, but it turns out you're just another partisan hack making facts fit the script, and if they don't, get rid of them, they're fake news.

Loving the US does NOT mean that you support the policies that YOU like.

Yes, I know you were talking about me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of your bullshit too Ray. Because all you seem to do lately is bullshit. There's no logic to your posts. It's simple black and white. Republicans have the sun shining out of their fucking asses, and Democrats are evil.

If a Democrat says "today is Sunday" you will think they are wrong. If a Republican says "today is Sunday" they are an enlightened person who is clearly right.

I'm used to people coming on here and talking absolute bullshit. Just because you make a post about it, doesn't make you right.

Here is your "argument" in a nutshell.

Liberals hate some things about America, therefore they hate America.
Conservatives hate some things about America, therefore they love America.

Seriously?

Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.

Then I have no idea what you're reading when you read my posts. My point was that Republicans never try to compare other countries to ours because we believe we have the greatest country in the world. Liberals do not; always telling us how great it is in other places.

The fact that liberals want to change just about everything in America makes me wonder if you people even like this country--not because Democrat policies are treason, but because you are always telling us how wrong our country is compared to others because their systems are so superior to ours.

Bottom line is it seems we Republicans love our country while you on the left love other countries.

I guess I'll never understand some people. Kind of reminds me of what our state is doing now which is putting up sound barriers on the highways to make it a tad bit quieter for the homes that border the highway. To a liberal, this is logical. To a conservative, WTF did you buy a house next to the Fn highway for??? Now we are wasting tens of millions of dollars because you clowns bought cheaper homes by the highway, and then complained to your representatives about the noise!

So to me, it makes no sense when liberals complain we are not like other countries instead of packing your bags and going to these other countries. If it's so great there with their socialized medical care, their gun laws, their taxation, their election system, their education system, move and live in your utopia. But no. Instead, stay here and complain.
The fact that you go through life with blinders on puzzles me

Why wouldn't you want to look at practices used by other countries? If France comes up with a life saving medical procedure.......should we ignore it because it would be admitting we are not the best at everything?

Such a bogus comparison. I'm talking about societal and government structures and you're talking about a medical procedure. That's about as ridiculous as saying if Italy came out with a new pasta dish, we shouldn't serve it here.
 
During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

That's because "theirs" is handouts; and they're lazy, no-good, shiftless, unintelligent people.
 
I'm sure they far left loves this country. It's full of Useful Idiots who never read the Bill of Rights.
Even third worlders from down south, seem to know federalism better than most of the right wing, in the US.

Doubtful. Based on the alleged reasons why the left protests, they don't understand the Bill of Rights, are totally ignorant of what it says, or are enemies of the COTUS.
 
Conservatives SAY they love America . But what do they love about it ?

The hate virtually ALL the people in the US . They hate the physical country . They want to do away with environment protection and pave over our forests .

Really, the only thing they love is the American dollar .
 
I'm sure the left loves this country. It's full of Useful Idiots who never read the Bill of Rights.

I don't now about that. If I married a short pudgy girl that didn't wear much makeup or sexy clothing, and then tried to make her lose weight, get a new hair style, workout, buy and use more makeup, and get higher heeled shoes to make her look taller, why in the world did I marry her in the first place? I should have married an attractive, tall, shapely woman who was obsessed with physical appearance.
 
Conservatives SAY they love America . But what do they love about it ?

The hate virtually ALL the people in the US . They hate the physical country . They want to do away with environment protection and pave over our forests .

Really, the only thing they love is the American dollar .

So, you're a "conservative". Who knew?
 
I'm sure, actually positive, that if you didn't live around another Liberal again, you'd find other things to hate.

Oh, loving your country doesn't meaning loving everyone in it, or loving everything about your country. How convenient AFTER you just said Liberals don't like the US because they don't like some things about it. Do you not see the MASSIVE contradiction there? Come on Ray, I thought you were better than that, but it turns out you're just another partisan hack making facts fit the script, and if they don't, get rid of them, they're fake news.

Loving the US does NOT mean that you support the policies that YOU like.

Yes, I know you were talking about me.

I'm sick and fucking tired of your bullshit too Ray. Because all you seem to do lately is bullshit. There's no logic to your posts. It's simple black and white. Republicans have the sun shining out of their fucking asses, and Democrats are evil.

If a Democrat says "today is Sunday" you will think they are wrong. If a Republican says "today is Sunday" they are an enlightened person who is clearly right.

I'm used to people coming on here and talking absolute bullshit. Just because you make a post about it, doesn't make you right.

Here is your "argument" in a nutshell.

Liberals hate some things about America, therefore they hate America.
Conservatives hate some things about America, therefore they love America.

Seriously?

Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.

Then I have no idea what you're reading when you read my posts. My point was that Republicans never try to compare other countries to ours because we believe we have the greatest country in the world. Liberals do not; always telling us how great it is in other places.

The fact that liberals want to change just about everything in America makes me wonder if you people even like this country--not because Democrat policies are treason, but because you are always telling us how wrong our country is compared to others because their systems are so superior to ours.

Bottom line is it seems we Republicans love our country while you on the left love other countries.

I guess I'll never understand some people. Kind of reminds me of what our state is doing now which is putting up sound barriers on the highways to make it a tad bit quieter for the homes that border the highway. To a liberal, this is logical. To a conservative, WTF did you buy a house next to the Fn highway for??? Now we are wasting tens of millions of dollars because you clowns bought cheaper homes by the highway, and then complained to your representatives about the noise!

So to me, it makes no sense when liberals complain we are not like other countries instead of packing your bags and going to these other countries. If it's so great there with their socialized medical care, their gun laws, their taxation, their election system, their education system, move and live in your utopia. But no. Instead, stay here and complain.
The fact that you go through life with blinders on puzzles me

Why wouldn't you want to look at practices used by other countries? If France comes up with a life saving medical procedure.......should we ignore it because it would be admitting we are not the best at everything?

Such a bogus comparison. I'm talking about societal and government structures and you're talking about a medical procedure. That's about as ridiculous as saying if Italy came out with a new pasta dish, we shouldn't serve it here.
Though it went right over your head, yes, it is the same thing
Adopting something someone else is doing is not an admission of your own ineptness. It is what our brightest innovators do every day
 
During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.
Well, despite republican attempts to destroy America, it's still a great place to live. Besides, it's home.
 
Completely wrong. It seems that liberals hate most things about America, not some things. I gave you the list of the major things liberals would like to change, would you like me to list them again? Of course not because you know I'm right.

There is no bullshit about what I speak of, and if you ever find any, by all means, bring it up. Everything I have said (and do say) is true. If you want to prove them false, I welcome the challenge.

The things we Republicans don't like about our country are the things liberals plagued us with just like those Socialist European countries. We don't want to be Sweden, we don't want to be Poland, we don't want to be Germany, we want to be America. The Socialism we have in the US is what's destroying our country, so we want to send that Socialism back to Europe while you on the left want to keep inviting it back in.

Yes Ray, there is a LOT of bullshit. Your logic is completely out of whack for a start.

Yes, Republicans don't like things that Democrats do, and Democrats don't like things that Republicans do, and somehow this is Republicans loving their country, because as always, the right decide that THEIR POLICIES are PATRIOTIC and Democrat policies are treason, or something like that. It's always been like that, go look at the right in Turkey or Israel or wherever.

I understand what this is trying to do, it's trying to force people to accept your view out of fear of being branded whatever you want to brand them as. In the 1950s-1990s it was Communists, now it could be a Muslim love, a Communist, a traitor, whatever, it's name calling at it's worst, bullying at it's worst and shows you don't have a decent argument to go by.

I'm not a Socialist Ray. I hate Socialism and Communism. But I also hate blatantly obvious bullshit and people who will say ANYTHING to get what they want, no matter how contradictory it is to the last thing they just said, and this is EXACTLY what you're doing.

Then I have no idea what you're reading when you read my posts. My point was that Republicans never try to compare other countries to ours because we believe we have the greatest country in the world. Liberals do not; always telling us how great it is in other places.

The fact that liberals want to change just about everything in America makes me wonder if you people even like this country--not because Democrat policies are treason, but because you are always telling us how wrong our country is compared to others because their systems are so superior to ours.

Bottom line is it seems we Republicans love our country while you on the left love other countries.

I guess I'll never understand some people. Kind of reminds me of what our state is doing now which is putting up sound barriers on the highways to make it a tad bit quieter for the homes that border the highway. To a liberal, this is logical. To a conservative, WTF did you buy a house next to the Fn highway for??? Now we are wasting tens of millions of dollars because you clowns bought cheaper homes by the highway, and then complained to your representatives about the noise!

So to me, it makes no sense when liberals complain we are not like other countries instead of packing your bags and going to these other countries. If it's so great there with their socialized medical care, their gun laws, their taxation, their election system, their education system, move and live in your utopia. But no. Instead, stay here and complain.
The fact that you go through life with blinders on puzzles me

Why wouldn't you want to look at practices used by other countries? If France comes up with a life saving medical procedure.......should we ignore it because it would be admitting we are not the best at everything?

Such a bogus comparison. I'm talking about societal and government structures and you're talking about a medical procedure. That's about as ridiculous as saying if Italy came out with a new pasta dish, we shouldn't serve it here.
Though it went right over your head, yes, it is the same thing
Adopting something someone else is doing is not an admission of your own ineptness. It is what our brightest innovators do every day

Went over my head? It seems that's what happened to my comment. So let me put it another way:

Using a medical procedure created in another country will not duplicate a government or social system. It won't change a thing in our society outside of those who receive the treatment. It won't take over one-sixth of our economy either.
 
Conservatives SAY they love America . But what do they love about it ?

The hate virtually ALL the people in the US . They hate the physical country . They want to do away with environment protection and pave over our forests .

Really, the only thing they love is the American dollar .

So, you're a "conservative". Who knew?

Depends on the subject .


Oh, I also forgot that the right hates the US government too.
 
Conservatives SAY they love America . But what do they love about it ?

The hate virtually ALL the people in the US . They hate the physical country . They want to do away with environment protection and pave over our forests .

Really, the only thing they love is the American dollar .

So, you're a "conservative". Who knew?

Depends on the subject .


Oh, I also forgot that the right hates the US government too.

The only thing the right hates are liberal socialist policies. Trying to prevent the spread of that (which is available in other countries) shows we love this country.
 

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