Do liberals even like this country?

[Moonglow]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

The "patriot" who can actually change this nation for the better must be fully devoted to both GOD and country. Those that do not believe or accept the divine will never understand that human endeavor alone will only achieve more chaos and degradation...

Which God?

 

[Moonglow]

Then I guess you'll keep on with your commie crap until the shooting starts. Fine by me. You want other peoples money taken by force. Thief.

Guy, the Commie stuff usually starts shooting when people get fed up with the behavior of the 1%. Just ask these assholes.

Or these assholes...

You see, the thing is, we used to have it pretty good in this country when the workforce was 30% unionized, we had a middle class that brought home good paychecks.

But as Herbert Hoover once opined, "The problem with Capitalism is Capitalists. They're too damned greedy!"

...and then the liberals took "control".... you commies never stop with your attacks on this country. This is my last response to your never ending mis-characterizations and downright lies.

I bet you were a great fanatic in your day..

 

[Aletheia4u]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

They are not Liberals that are causing all of this nonsense. These are paid protesters that are claiming that they are Liberals. Like Antifa, that they are supposedly be against the Establishment. But why they only protested at Pres. Trump's conventions, but they ignored the Bilderberg's conference in Virginia, and which they are the Establishment. I don't know that if you know that Alex Jones and the rest of his affiliates are Liberals. And some of the real Liberals groups are starting to realize that these are not Liberals that are protesting. Even some of the Muslims are wondering that they are being used as a political pawn. Alex Jones always was against the establishment and the government because they were doing wrong at the time. But now that there is someone that the Establishment doesn't like, that Alex Jones likes. But back then, they had any protesters that protested against Obama locked up in Fusion centers or whatever. That is why you haven't heard that much about of protesters protesting against him. But now they has giving protesters the right to do as they feel. They needs to release those protesters that they has locked up in these camps, or dig up their graves.

 

[rightwinger]

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to fuck up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

For dems prosperity can only come from the government. Those in it get insanely rich and the poor get their social program checks just to live. They don't ever mean real prosperity it must be controlled.

The Government acts as a referee ensuring a level playing field

Right now, the refs are making all the calls for the wealthy

 

[danielpalos]

How can alleged conservatives love our Republic, with nothing but repeal.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Higher taxes, for the people !!!!!! Lol

 

[danielpalos]

Higher taxes, for the people !!!!!! Lol

The general Warfare, right wingers, not the general Welfare!

Only in right wing fantasy.

 

[Darkwind]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

Well Ray there are some on both sides that hate this country when their political party is not in power...

Now what is wrong with looking at other nations to see if they are doing it better than us?

I don't think you understand. They are NOT doing better than we are. They would be failed states if not for the US. If these countries had to bear the full burden of their programs without the aid of America, their economies would collapse.

Ask yourself these questions:

Who has health care in a failed state?
Who has higher education in a failed state?
Where will the poor get food in a failed state?

If you think that these states cannot fail, then there is no sense in even having a discussion about it.

We simply cannot just provide everything everyone wants. The United States doesn't have a world benefactor providing gap funding for our social largess like these other countries do.

Hell, even if there was an entity, do you really think it is good social engineering to provide everything everyone would ever want through government?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Ahhhh..... the military canard

We historically allocate 3-4% of gdp on the military.
I think 5% is a better #.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals created this country in 1776

While the country at that time was the best our founders could do. Liberals realized we could do better......end slavery, women's rights, worker rights, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights.

Conservatives fought every inch of the way

Apparently, you're not a student of history.
The Emancipation Proclamation ended slavery (brought on by a republican president named Abraham Lincoln). The southern states which seceded from the union because slavery was financially advantageous to them and thus wanted to continue it, were democrats, not republicans.

Apparently you are not a student of history

You are not even able to tell the difference between Liberals/Conservatives and Democrats/Republicans

You actually believe Southern Democrats in 1860 were LIBERALS?

They were "Democrats."
What we call Democrats today are simply neo-communists or ultra-socialists.

Once again you duck the issue

They may have been "Democrats" but they were far from Liberal

You really can't comprehend the difference ...can you?

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhhh..... the military canard

We historically allocate 3-4% of gdp on the military.
I think 5% is a better #.

Why?
Do you think anyone is capable of invading us?

 

[francoHFW]

Maybe you should stop and remember this country doesn't belong to you, conservatives or republicans..

No it doesn't, but since we are not a socialist society yet, it's the conservatives that will help stop it from being that way. Remember: once liberals ruin this place and turn it into all the others, there is no other USA to move to. Unlike other liberal and socialist countries, there is only one USA.

But which societies are actually socialist Ray? Hardly any really.

Oh come on. You claim not to know but still say those are the countries we should be more like?

If ACA were implemented WE would be socialist...Thanks GOP- way to sell out again...

Having socialized health care, does not make a country socialist.

Having socialized police service, socialized military, etc etc, does not make the US socialist.

If you're a democracy, socialist is such a big term one can say it is. Even if it a pander to the rich GOP, unfair mess.

 

[Weatherman2020]

During a debate with a leftist this morning, I was once again told how much better things are in other places, and that made me ask myself if liberals even like this country yet alone love it?

How great other countries have it is a leftist argument they make all the time. It's beginning to be almost as common as saying the right are racist, sexist, homophobes.

What crossed my mind this morning is something I never thought of before: conservatives never say how much better it is in other places. We have our faults, we have our differences, but you never read a conservative say our country is not as good as X.

Liberals are quite the opposite. They want us to change our healthcare system like "theirs." They want us to have gun restrictions like theirs. They want us to have an education system like theirs. They want us to have a government structure like theirs. They want us to have an immigration system like theirs. They want us to have a justice system like theirs. We should take most of the money from rich people like they do. We need to change our election system like theirs.

So I'm going to ask this question one more time even though I've never gotten an answer before: If it's so good "there" WTF are you doing here?

It's apparent that we on the right love our country and the left does not. So the question I have (especially to you leftists) is if you do even like this country? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it since you want to change every aspect of it.

The left side with Islam because they are allies who also wish to destroy Western Civilization.

 

[Thinker101]

In a nutshell? No they don't like the US. But that's not the worst part. What exactly do they want?

They want socialism, and prosperity. Without having businesses to provide that prosperity or people having to work for it.

They want equal rights for women and gays, but they also want muslim laws.

They want transgender stories be considered normal, kill unborn children and reduce the population, and somehow keep social programs afloat.

They want to cut the military down to nothing, and at the same time take citizens guns away. How they expect to defend the country is a mystery.

These are the real issues with being a left wing nut. They don't like this country, but won't move to another one. They would prefer to fuck up this one.

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

BS. Pelosi married rich, Reid made money in real estate in NEVADA, the rest wrote book s and gave speeches like the Bushes, etc. What crap.

Sure, pigs can fly too.

 

[Thinker101]

How can alleged conservatives love our Republic, with nothing but repeal.

How can liberals love our Republic with nothing but obstruct...and violent protests.

 

[francoHFW]

BS, hater dupe. Absolutely clueless and brainwashed. Dems don't like what the New BS pander to the rich GOP has done to the country the last 35 years. The leftists you're brainwashed about are less than 1% and ARE nuts...The RWNJs you're one of are about half the GOP. Great job, New BS GOP bs/hate propaganda machine.

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

BS. Pelosi married rich, Reid made money in real estate in NEVADA, the rest wrote book s and gave speeches like the Bushes, etc. What crap.

Sure, pigs can fly too.

They also want to raise taxes on the rich, ie., themselves. Unlike your greed idiot brainwashing heroes, dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

How can alleged conservatives love our Republic, with nothing but repeal.

How can liberals love our Republic with nothing but obstruct...and violent protests.

Violent protests my ass, dupes. And only obstructing miserable policy only a dupe could support...

 

[Thinker101]

I always look forward to hearing from you Franco, it's the drug fueled crazy I miss the most.

Stil, your hate for the Clintons, for the Dems etc is all manufatured BS from the greedy ying GOP rich, dupe. Again, dupe doesn't mean yo're stupid. It's a gd good propaganda machine, and huge. Somehow seems to stop the Dems and journalists from doing their job well. Big money.

Of course Dems want prosperity and get it when in power. We love small businesses- That's crazy talk.

Muslim law only in mosques at most. Not me. A smaller military MAYBE, A good background check- no one wants your guns.

You can't just move LOL. Your whole post is hateful bs...THAT is what's wrong with America. The GOP and its crap and the hater dupes...See sig last line. Nothing personal, get it...

That is correct, Dems do want prosperity and get it when in power, take a look at the net worth of Pelosi, Harry Reid, Clintons, Obamas....do you seriously think any of them would have come close in the private sector. You could even add Bernie Sanders to that list now.

BS. Pelosi married rich, Reid made money in real estate in NEVADA, the rest wrote book s and gave speeches like the Bushes, etc. What crap.

Sure, pigs can fly too.

They also want to raise taxes on the rich, ie., themselves. Unlike your greed idiot brainwashing heroes, dupe.

They (Dems) may want to raise taxes on the rich, but I can guarantee you they won't be paying those taxes.

 

[Thinker101]

How can alleged conservatives love our Republic, with nothing but repeal.

How can liberals love our Republic with nothing but obstruct...and violent protests.

Violent protests my ass, dupes. And only obstructing miserable policy only a dupe could support...

The Top 5 "Liberal" Protests That Turned Violent

You're not exactly the brightest bulb.

 

[francoHFW]

How can alleged conservatives love our Republic, with nothing but repeal.

How can liberals love our Republic with nothing but obstruct...and violent protests.

Violent protests my ass, dupes. And only obstructing miserable policy only a dupe could support...

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The Top 5 "Liberal" Protests That Turned Violent

You're not exactly the brightest bulb.

Woodstock? LOL. Lib protests don't turn violent- anarchist and gangstas taking advantage. MONTHS ago, the video repeated a thousand times. Duped AGAIN.