How Franklin Roosevelt Made Memorial Day Necessary

[PoliticalChic]

"....obsess over FDR and his character assassination...."


You mean by telling the truth?

Really?

Now....watch me put you in your place....you won't be able to respond to this question....

1. Roosevelt quashed every plan to produce a peace with anti-Nazi Germans, in support of Communist expansion in Europe. Somehow, this was a higher priority than removing Hitler and ending our loss of blood and treasure.

2. Let's look at a primary source, Allen Dulles, first civilian to head the CIA, and its longest serving director. In "Germany's Underground: The Anti-Nazi Resistance," Dulles wrote of that the German was the only anti-Nazi underground not supported by the United States. (p.22).
On page 140, Dulles states "The plotters (anti-Nazi German resistance)....were told clearly and repeatedly that we had made common cause with Russia...." as the reason they were frozen out.

a. The NYTimes told the same story, March 18, 1946: "Full Story of Anit-Hitler Plot Shows That Allies Refused To Assist."



...what did America gain by not supporting the German resistance movement....

Hindsight is 20/20.. Now impress us all and prognosticate the eventual world leader in 2030..

"Hindsight is 20/20."

You just admitted that everything I posed is correct and accurate.

'Hindsight is 20/20. This is a saying which means that "It's easy to know the right thing to do after something has happened, but it's hard to predict the future." Let me explain why this phrase has that meaning. First, "hindsight" means "thinking about things after they've happened".
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nope-----your USE real outcomes in your SOPHIST attempt to "prove" that FDR loved
Stalin-------

Yet you haven't been able to deny any of the facts I've provided.

Case closed?

what "fact"? you are attempting to PROVE that FDR loved Stalin------you did not prove that "fact" by demonstrating that he did not KILL adolf. I know he did not kill adolf-----neither did you

200 posts into the thread of which have been a participant....

...and you're asking what the thread is about????



Do you understand how deeply stupid you appear????

 

[irosie91]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

sheesh ----the HESS thing is back

 

[Moonglow]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

sheesh ----the HESS thing is back

Polichic always forgets him...He had a beautiful smile...

 

[irosie91]

Hindsight is 20/20.. Now impress us all and prognosticate the eventual world leader in 2030..

"Hindsight is 20/20."

You just admitted that everything I posed is correct and accurate.

'Hindsight is 20/20. This is a saying which means that "It's easy to know the right thing to do after something has happened, but it's hard to predict the future." Let me explain why this phrase has that meaning. First, "hindsight" means "thinking about things after they've happened".
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nope-----your USE real outcomes in your SOPHIST attempt to "prove" that FDR loved
Stalin-------

Yet you haven't been able to deny any of the facts I've provided.

Case closed?

what "fact"? you are attempting to PROVE that FDR loved Stalin------you did not prove that "fact" by demonstrating that he did not KILL adolf. I know he did not kill adolf-----neither did you

200 posts into the thread of which have been a participant....

...and you're asking what the thread is about????



Do you understand how deeply stupid you appear????

to whom?-------PROVE THAT A BULLET IN THE HEAD OF ADOLF would have ended world war II-------just a bullet in the head of
binny ENDED islamicist terrorism (which is a fake)

 

[PoliticalChic]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

.....none of the Roosevelt boot-lickers have made any attempt at explaining.....
...much less excusing....

....Roosevelt's exchange of 200,000 American servicemen's lives simply for facilitating Soviet Communism's expansion.


In short.....what did America gain by not supporting the German resistance movement, which would have turned Hitler over to the Allies, ended the war at least two years earlier than it ended, .....

....and all it would have cost the world is the absence of the Cold War, no Korean nor Vietnam Wars, and no Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe.



A brutally simply question that none of the Roosevelt boot-lickers dared answer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

Y'know....sometimes you appear to have the rudiments of an education.
This may be the best post from your (the Leftist's) side.

I like this post...but am not going to change the thrust of this thread.

I will say this....you have an excellent opportunity to begin a thread based on the Hess flight.....
...there are several interesting theories....



Hint: Hess flew in March or April of '41.....
....do you know what happened on June 21, 1941

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Hindsight is 20/20."

You just admitted that everything I posed is correct and accurate.

'Hindsight is 20/20. This is a saying which means that "It's easy to know the right thing to do after something has happened, but it's hard to predict the future." Let me explain why this phrase has that meaning. First, "hindsight" means "thinking about things after they've happened".
English Phrase: Hindsight is 20/20. | PhraseMix.com
www.phrasemix.com/phrases/hindsight-is-20-20

nope-----your USE real outcomes in your SOPHIST attempt to "prove" that FDR loved
Stalin-------

Yet you haven't been able to deny any of the facts I've provided.

Case closed?

what "fact"? you are attempting to PROVE that FDR loved Stalin------you did not prove that "fact" by demonstrating that he did not KILL adolf. I know he did not kill adolf-----neither did you

200 posts into the thread of which have been a participant....

...and you're asking what the thread is about????



Do you understand how deeply stupid you appear????

to whom?-------PROVE THAT A BULLET IN THE HEAD OF ADOLF would have ended world war II-------just a bullet in the head of
binny ENDED islamicist terrorism (which is a fake)

My posts have proven many things.....including every claim I have made

Proving you to be a dunce was a bonus.

 

[Moonglow]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

Y'know....sometimes you appear to have the rudiments of an education.
This may be the best post from your (the Leftist's) side.

I like this post...but am not going to change the thrust of this thread.

I will say this....you have an excellent opportunity to begin a thread based on the Hess flight.....
...there are several interesting theories....



Hint: Hess flew in March or April of '41.....
....do you know what happened on June 21, 1941

Adolph got a cold sore?

 

[irosie91]

But wait, even the British had a chance to have Germany surrender when in 1941 Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland to negotiate a surrender and peace treaty and the English imprisoned Rudolf and did not further negotiate with Hitler...Churchill was a pinko also..

sheesh ----the HESS thing is back

Polichic always forgets him...He had a beautiful smile...

chic is not forgetting HESS. Hess and the "anti-hitler" people she cites had a MARVELOUS peace plan that would have ended the war and saved millions of lives. It was an ALLIANCE between Britain and Germany (supported by MANY peace loving people in Germany including the Duke of Windsor and many in the US including chic)
The PLAN would have created an EXTENSIVE NAZI THIRD REICH in Europe---left Great Britain intact as an ALLY OF THE THIRD REICH and assure the defanging of Russia as an enemy of the GLORIOUS THIRD
REICH. The peace loving people in Germany were Nazis----just as BRUTUS was
Roman------they just knew that adolf was not going to WIN THE REICH that they knew---they could---if only GREAT BRITAIN AGREED----to become allied with THE REICH. Chic is nothing new----I read whole story books lauding that POST WORLD WAR
WORLD of the GLORIOUS THIRD REICH----way back in the 1960s ----near my home town-----that Nazi enclave

 

[irosie91]

nope-----your USE real outcomes in your SOPHIST attempt to "prove" that FDR loved
Stalin-------

Yet you haven't been able to deny any of the facts I've provided.

Case closed?

what "fact"? you are attempting to PROVE that FDR loved Stalin------you did not prove that "fact" by demonstrating that he did not KILL adolf. I know he did not kill adolf-----neither did you

200 posts into the thread of which have been a participant....

...and you're asking what the thread is about????



Do you understand how deeply stupid you appear????

to whom?-------PROVE THAT A BULLET IN THE HEAD OF ADOLF would have ended world war II-------just a bullet in the head of
binny ENDED islamicist terrorism (which is a fake)

My posts have proven many things.....including every claim I have made

Proving you to be a dunce was a bonus.

see post # 229 I know you well. I have known you almost all of my life

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

 

[irosie91]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

No you fucking retard. More people in the FDR White House reported to Stalin than to FDR.

We prosecuted the entire WWII according to what was best for "Uncle Joe"

 

[irosie91]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

that's it, crusader? "funny"-----c'mon-----you know that your crusade is------as in days of old----for the GLORY OF THE REICH (aka holy roman empire)

 

[irosie91]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

No you fucking retard. More people in the FDR White House reported to Stalin than to FDR.

We prosecuted the entire WWII according to what was best for "Uncle Joe"

We prosecuted the ENTIRE WORLD WAR II----as an enemy of your beloved HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE------ # 3. I understand your sense of LOSS

 

[irosie91]

hey crusader and chic------don't leave 'angry'

 

[PoliticalChic]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

that's it, crusader? "funny"-----c'mon-----you know that your crusade is------as in days of old----for the GLORY OF THE REICH (aka holy roman empire)

As usual...when you have lost the argument based on fact....what ineluctably follows is the claim that any who hate communists must be Nazis.

Remember earlier when I identified you a a low-life lying gutter snipe?

Ditto.

 

[Dot Com]

should we bring up the still extant USA NAZI FORCE?

Sure.. I had the pleasure of being educated in a place that had pictures of Nazi's on the wall and great stories of their accomplishments to ensure NASA had all it's ducks in a row to compete with the USSR...Wernher Von Braun was the mentor at the Redstone Arsenal Missile Center and School in Huntsville, Alabama....Why we all wore military uniforms, saluted and goose stepped our way to an education on missiles and missile systems.....

Is that where you learned the UBER ALLES ASS SALUTE?

Seige hail schizer Polichicnick......

Nice of you to remind all of the relationship of all the Leftist doctrines....

......Nazis, Communists, Fascists, Liberals, Progressives and Socialists.

The murder of Adolph Hitler would have been used by the Nazi's to strengthen their hold on Germany and purge anyone who was remotely a threat. In 1942, Germany had captured Western Europe and most of the Soviet Union. Hitler would have become a martyr and whoever took over for the Nazi's would have had the complete support of the German people

Earle wrote that his German contacts came back to him with another more specific plan, laying out the involvement of Field Marshal Ludwig Beck; Count Wolf Heinrich von Helldorf, chief of police of Berlin; Prince Gottfried Bismarck, a Potsdam official and grandson of the “Iron Chancellor”; and a well-known cavalry officer, Freiherr von Boeselager. Again, the plan was to stage a coup, turn over Hitler and his top henchmen to the Allies, and bring about Germany’s “unconditional surrender, with one condition”: The Russians were not to be allowed into Central Europe, including Germany or territory at that time controlled by Germany." "Wedemeyer Reports!: An objective, dispassionate examination of World War II, postwar policies, and Grand Strategy," by General Albert C. Wedemeyer

Quite an offer there

That would have been quite an accomplishment in 1942 with the Nazis at the peak of their power and popularity. Resistance forces were unable to topple Hitler with the Soviets knocking on the gates of Berlin, but could have been successful in 1942
What makes you think the German people and the military would have supported a coup?

Germany controlled most of Europe and half the Soviet Union....why would they unconditionally surrender?

what about AUSTRIA? ---they actually had popular support over there----and what about HUNGARY-----enthusiastic participants. ----then there was JAPAN and ITALY------everyone was going to fold just because tiny little adolf got a bullet in his head?

Just like when Lenin died, they called off communism in Russia..

"....when Lenin died, they called off communism in Russia.."


And, one more post that validates what the first defector, Victor Kravchenko said:

. Kravcheko revealed that the Communists did in reality what Winston Smith did in "1984,"....

"Shamelessly, without so much as an explanation, it revised half a century of Russian history. I don't mean simply that it falsified some facts or gave a new interpretation of events. I mean that it deliberately stood history on its head, expunging events and inventing facts.

It twisted the recent past--a past still fresh in millions of memories--into new and bizarre shapes, to conform with the version of affairs presented by the blood-purge trials and the accompanying propaganda... The roles of leading historical figures were perverted or altogether erased.... More than that, living witnesses, as far as possible, were removed. The directing staff of the Institute of Marx, Engels and Lenin in Moscow, repository of ideological truth, were removed and the more important people among them imprisoned or shot.

a. . The new history" became possible. To brand the shame more deeply on our minds, "study" of the new version was made obligatory for all responsible Party people. History classes met nearly every night in this period and lecturers from Sverdlovsk came to our town to help hammer home the lies, while most of us fumed inwardly. Whatever human dignity remained in our character was humiliated.. But even the most gigantic lie, by dint of infinite repetition, takes root; Stalin knew this before Hitler discovered it. As I looked on I could see terrible falsehoods, at first accepted under pressure, become established as unquestioned "facts," particularly among younger people without personal experience to the contrary to bother them."
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Bulletin: Stalin never gave up communism, international socialism.

It lives on in his creation, the United Nations.

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Which brings us to- you ever serve PoliSpice? Stop disparagling REAL Americans you pampered AZN tinfoiler

 

[irosie91]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

that's it, crusader? "funny"-----c'mon-----you know that your crusade is------as in days of old----for the GLORY OF THE REICH (aka holy roman empire)

As usual...when you have lost the argument based on fact....what ineluctably follows is the claim that any who hate communists must be Nazis.

Remember earlier when I identified you a a low-life lying gutter snipe?

Ditto.

In fact----at no point in this entire discussion OR on this entire message board OR in my entire life------have I ever stated or even hinted that "anyone who hates communists must be
a Nazi" Your statement -----chic-------is typical of both THIRD REICH TOTALITARIANISM ------and COMMUNIST TOTALITARIANISM The communist purges were nothing more than REICH INQUSITION auto de fe 's which morphed into your all time fave ----AUSCHWITZ auto de fe

 

[PoliticalChic]

Germans WANTED to surrender to Patton and the US but the USA was following orders set by the Kremlin.

In fact, we weren't even allowed to enter Berlin until "Uncle Joe" was ready

FDR, Truman and Ike were all essentially working for Stalin

right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN

that's it, crusader? "funny"-----c'mon-----you know that your crusade is------as in days of old----for the GLORY OF THE REICH (aka holy roman empire)

As usual...when you have lost the argument based on fact....what ineluctably follows is the claim that any who hate communists must be Nazis.

Remember earlier when I identified you a a low-life lying gutter snipe?

Ditto.

In fact----at no point in this entire discussion OR on this entire message board OR in my entire life------have I ever stated or even hinted that "anyone who hates communists must be
a Nazi" Your statement -----chic-------is typical of both THIRD REICH TOTALITARIANISM ------and COMMUNIST TOTALITARIANISM The communist purges were nothing more than REICH INQUSITION auto de fe 's which morphed into your all time fave ----AUSCHWITZ auto de fe

You wrote this, you lying low-life:

"right----the perception of the lovers of the third REICH------something like the perception of the lovers of Papa and baby ASSAD---today-

the lovers of THE ASSAD/IRAN/RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST ALLIANCE claim that anyone
against it-----is PRO AL QAEDA

The LOVERS OF THE THIRD REICH insist that anyone who was against it-----was a lover of COMMUNIST MURDERER STALIN"



Now get back under that rock.