I Feel Sorry For Democrats

[daws101]

They call them sin taxes for a reason

Republicans are making poverty a sin and seeking to raise taxes on it

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

total bullshit !
there are not near enough jobs to go around.
the rest except the "Obama phone" is a right tard myth.

 

[Faun]

They call them sin taxes for a reason

Republicans are making poverty a sin and seeking to raise taxes on it

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

 

[Faun]

That is exactly what we do

We don't want to take money away from families struggling to survive. You tax where the money is, not where it is not

Then why was DumBama's first initiative to place a sin tax on cigarettes when he got into office---cigarettes which are mostly used by lower income to middle-class people? Why was there no concern about what the poor could afford when DumBama closed down coal fired power plants and placing heavy and expensive restrictions on those that remained open which costs will be transferred to the consumer?

When it comes to paying income taxes, no way should those poor, poor people pay. But costs that promote a Democrat agenda, no problem, those poor people have the money.

They call them sin taxes for a reason

Republicans are making poverty a sin and seeking to raise taxes on it

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

 

[daws101]

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

 

[Faun]

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

 

[Kosh]

You failed to mention that the Idiot-in-Chief declared that we had "contained" ISIS... hours before they killed 168 people and wounded a couple hundred more in the worst terrorist attack in France's history.

That's 128 people.
If you're going to talk shit , make it accurate shit.

Yep Obama lied and people died!

 

[daws101]

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

 

[daws101]

You failed to mention that the Idiot-in-Chief declared that we had "contained" ISIS... hours before they killed 168 people and wounded a couple hundred more in the worst terrorist attack in France's history.

That's 128 people.
If you're going to talk shit , make it accurate shit.

Yep Obama lied and people died!

false ! there is no credible connection between what the president said and the attack.

 

[Faun]

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

So then it's only called an ObamaPhone because some rightwinger first called it that? Is that right? And if it wasn't Obama who started this program you speak of, who did start it?

 

[daws101]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

So then it's only called an ObamaPhone because some rightwinger first called it that? Is that right? And if it wasn't Obama who started this program you speak of, who did start it?

if you mean by started it he approved the bill then yes.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then why was DumBama's first initiative to place a sin tax on cigarettes when he got into office---cigarettes which are mostly used by lower income to middle-class people? Why was there no concern about what the poor could afford when DumBama closed down coal fired power plants and placing heavy and expensive restrictions on those that remained open which costs will be transferred to the consumer?

When it comes to paying income taxes, no way should those poor, poor people pay. But costs that promote a Democrat agenda, no problem, those poor people have the money.

They call them sin taxes for a reason

Republicans are making poverty a sin and seeking to raise taxes on it

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

No, my only point is that if our federal government is going to spend money for those social programs, we should all have to pay for them. By everybody having a dog in the fight, we wouldn't be pitting one group of Americans against another like Democrats are used to doing. In short, also known as Vote Buying.

If there is no vote buying, then we as American citizens can collectively decide if we all want these programs and are willing to pay for them. If everybody is willing to pay for them, fine with me. I could care less how many social programs we have. But when we allow voters to vote money out of the pockets of other people to benefit them, then it's downright theft.

 

[Faun]

"ObamaPhone?" What the hell is that?

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

So then it's only called an ObamaPhone because some rightwinger first called it that? Is that right? And if it wasn't Obama who started this program you speak of, who did start it?

if you mean by started it he approved the bill then yes.

Who approved the bill and what bill was it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

total bullshit !
there are not near enough jobs to go around.
the rest except the "Obama phone" is a right tard myth.

There may not be enough jobs for every American, but there are certainly enough job openings that are not being filled. Does it make sense that employers are looking for workers, but the people that are capable of working are sitting home on government programs?

 

[Faun]

They call them sin taxes for a reason

Republicans are making poverty a sin and seeking to raise taxes on it

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

No, my only point is that if our federal government is going to spend money for those social programs, we should all have to pay for them. By everybody having a dog in the fight, we wouldn't be pitting one group of Americans against another like Democrats are used to doing. In short, also known as Vote Buying.

If there is no vote buying, then we as American citizens can collectively decide if we all want these programs and are willing to pay for them. If everybody is willing to pay for them, fine with me. I could care less how many social programs we have. But when we allow voters to vote money out of the pockets of other people to benefit them, then it's downright theft.

So the Republicans are buying votes by promising to cut taxes, is that what you're saying?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, they call them sin taxes for a reason. And the reason is it's a sin to try and control people through taxation.

So how is it Republicans are making poverty a sin and Democrats not? Did any Democrat consider what burning up our food supply would do to the cost of food for poor people when they came out with ethanol? Of course not. They didn't care. As long as it promotes a greener environment, that's all that matters.

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

No, my only point is that if our federal government is going to spend money for those social programs, we should all have to pay for them. By everybody having a dog in the fight, we wouldn't be pitting one group of Americans against another like Democrats are used to doing. In short, also known as Vote Buying.

If there is no vote buying, then we as American citizens can collectively decide if we all want these programs and are willing to pay for them. If everybody is willing to pay for them, fine with me. I could care less how many social programs we have. But when we allow voters to vote money out of the pockets of other people to benefit them, then it's downright theft.

So the Republicans are buying votes by promising to cut taxes, is that what you're saying?

No because tax cuts don't cost anybody anything. Promising people that the government will allow them to keep more of what they rightfully earned is not vote buying.

 

[daws101]

it's the nick name for the burner phones given to the poor while they look for jobs .
it not as the right tards would have you believe that "they" get top of the line phones .
what they do get is rock bottom .

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

So then it's only called an ObamaPhone because some rightwinger first called it that? Is that right? And if it wasn't Obama who started this program you speak of, who did start it?

if you mean by started it he approved the bill then yes.

Who approved the bill and what bill was it?

Obama Phone: Urban Legend or Real?

 

[daws101]

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Give poor people jobs and they will vote Republican forever

What is stopping you?

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. There are plenty of jobs out there but the lazy society suckers are sitting at home in front of their big screen with their Obama phone. They don't want to work because in many cases, being on the dole is just as advantageous as working.

The only way some of these people will take a job is if there are no other choices. But given the choice, they will stay unemployed.

total bullshit !
there are not near enough jobs to go around.
the rest except the "Obama phone" is a right tard myth.

There may not be enough jobs for every American, but there are certainly enough job openings that are not being filled. Does it make sense that employers are looking for workers, but the people that are capable of working are sitting home on government programs?

again that's bullshit .

 

[Faun]

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

No, my only point is that if our federal government is going to spend money for those social programs, we should all have to pay for them. By everybody having a dog in the fight, we wouldn't be pitting one group of Americans against another like Democrats are used to doing. In short, also known as Vote Buying.

If there is no vote buying, then we as American citizens can collectively decide if we all want these programs and are willing to pay for them. If everybody is willing to pay for them, fine with me. I could care less how many social programs we have. But when we allow voters to vote money out of the pockets of other people to benefit them, then it's downright theft.

So the Republicans are buying votes by promising to cut taxes, is that what you're saying?

No because tax cuts don't cost anybody anything. Promising people that the government will allow them to keep more of what they rightfully earned is not vote buying.

Who said anything about costs? Tax cuts put more money in peoples' pockets. How is that not buying votes?

 

[daws101]

Actually cigarette smoking is way down. The price of a pack is a big contributor

Seems Republicans are trying the same tactic....making it too expensive to be poor

The problem we Republicans have is that these poor people will vote for anybody that promises to take money away from somebody else to give to them. That tactic would be brought to a halt if everybody had to contribute.

With my consumption tax suggestion, if you want socialized health care, then we all pay more tax. If you want free college, then we all pay more tax. If you want to go to war with ISIS, then we all pay more tax. If you want to give 45 million Americans food stamps, then we all pay more tax.

Our social programs are out of control, and the reason is Democrats promise to give goodies to the majority at the expense of the minority, therefore, the minority has no way to protect themselves from this robbery.

If everybody had to pay for all these goodies, you would see how less compassionate those Democrats would be, and we would finally be able to reign in our excessive social program spending.

Sounds like your ulterior motive for wanting a consumption tax is to get rid of pesky social programs you don't want.

No, my only point is that if our federal government is going to spend money for those social programs, we should all have to pay for them. By everybody having a dog in the fight, we wouldn't be pitting one group of Americans against another like Democrats are used to doing. In short, also known as Vote Buying.

If there is no vote buying, then we as American citizens can collectively decide if we all want these programs and are willing to pay for them. If everybody is willing to pay for them, fine with me. I could care less how many social programs we have. But when we allow voters to vote money out of the pockets of other people to benefit them, then it's downright theft.

So the Republicans are buying votes by promising to cut taxes, is that what you're saying?

No because tax cuts don't cost anybody anything. Promising people that the government will allow them to keep more of what they rightfully earned is not vote buying.

yes it is . it's an incentive to garner more votes. Works just as well as money ...

 

[Faun]

So Obama started giving out phone then, right?

don't they wish! it part of a federal job search/ creation program.
"they" only get them if they are actively searching or attending job training if the stop doing either no phone and no money.

So then it's only called an ObamaPhone because some rightwinger first called it that? Is that right? And if it wasn't Obama who started this program you speak of, who did start it?

if you mean by started it he approved the bill then yes.

Who approved the bill and what bill was it?

Obama Phone: Urban Legend or Real?

So then they're ClintonPhones??

Now I'm even more confused since the LifeLine program began in 1985 and Clinton wasn't president yet.

Lifeline Program for Low-Income Consumers

Since 1985, the Lifeline program has provided a discount on phone service for qualifying low-income consumers to ensure that all Americans have the opportunities and security that phone service brings, including being able to connect to jobs, family and emergency services. In 2005, Lifeline discounts were made available to qualifying low-income consumers on pre-paid wireless service plans in addition to traditional landline service. Lifeline is part of the Universal Service Fund.​

Looks to me like they're actually .... are ya sitting down ... ?

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