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or Republican
ever again.
I find voting for third party candidates pretty useless. It's great if you really agree with a third party candidate, but the fact is that most third party candidates are off in lala land with many of their ideas, and if you support one of them, you too are most likely off in lala land with your beliefs.
The problem isn't so much the parties or even the candidates; it's the fact that voters generally refuse to send their representatives packing when they do not do their jobs in a manner that is satisfactory to the electorate. It's always the fault of Congressmen/women and Senators from those other districts. That and the simple fact that too many of these representatives serve way too long, leading to more opportunities for corruption or just being lackadaisical, is why Congress as a whole is completely ineffective.
Can you define logic?
Something that you're lacking. There are two political parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats. Unless you vote for one of the two, you're throwing away your vote.
No, there are several political parties. The fact that you believe there are only two speaks to your ignorance. Why waste your vote on the status quo?
Something that you're lacking. There are two political parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats. Unless you vote for one of the two, you're throwing away your vote.
No, there are several political parties. The fact that you believe there are only two speaks to your ignorance. Why waste your vote on the status quo?
No, there are two parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, the rest are the wacko offshoots of the aforementioned.
I don't waste my vote, I'm a Republican that votes Democrat because I'm pro middle class.
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You truly thought you were showing everyone something by voting against Romney whom you assumed to be a tool of the rich, but instead voted for the real tool of the rich in Obama. You truly are a dumb person. Most bigots are idiots, and you are a bigot. Sadly the Democrat party counts on idiots like you voting.
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JoeB131 said:given those choices, I had to vote against the insane religious cult on principle
If you are wondering why I called you a bigot before, this is exactly why...your hatred and intolerance of Mormons. I am not a Mormon, but I have been to Salt Lake City, and have attended a non-Mormon church. I have been treated with respect. I am not Mormon, but I sure respect them, they are good people..
JoeB131 said:Now, it would be nice to see smarter, better people run for office,.
Smarter people running for office would do you no good considering what a moron you are.
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Joe hates religion and religious people altogether. He thinks its an impediment to his lifestyle and a stain on society. When in all actuality his bigotry is the stain, and we are here to cleanse it. If he had a real interest in bettering our country, he would vote on principle and policy, not just on policy, not just on principle, and most certainly not popularity.
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That'd make sense if Dems weren't f'ing with the middle class more than anyone.
Can you define logic?
Something that you're lacking. There are two political parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats. Unless you vote for one of the two, you're throwing away your vote.
The assumption here being that a vote is worth anything in the first place. It's not.
or Republican
ever again.
I find voting for third party candidates pretty useless. It's great if you really agree with a third party candidate, but the fact is that most third party candidates are off in lala land with many of their ideas, and if you support one of them, you too are most likely off in lala land with your beliefs.
The problem isn't so much the parties or even the candidates; it's the fact that voters generally refuse to send their representatives packing when they do not do their jobs in a manner that is satisfactory to the electorate. It's always the fault of Congressmen/women and Senators from those other districts. That and the simple fact that too many of these representatives serve way too long, leading to more opportunities for corruption or just being lackadaisical, is why Congress as a whole is completely ineffective.
The only people who are in "la-la" land are the masses glued to their cell phones and televisions, talking about celebrities, and believing tyranny is not a problem and Big Gov loves them.
Ever seen the movie "Titanic." ??? Everyone was enjoying themselves, rich, middle and poor, having a great time, then within one hour they were all fighting for their lives.
I'll also never vote Democrat. Unfortunately I live in a "swing" state and as long as it remain one, I will vote Republican while holding my nose because a vote for a 3rd party in a swing state is a vote for the Democrats.
Self-imposed disenfranchisement of all nutters!
I am with you!
or Republican
ever again.
Why vote at all?
I'll also never vote Democrat. Unfortunately I live in a "swing" state and as long as it remain one, I will vote Republican while holding my nose because a vote for a 3rd party in a swing state is a vote for the Democrats.
Pretty sure it's a vote for the third party. You do realize you're aiding in continuing the problem, not solving it, right?
Voting for the 3rd party only helps the Democrats.
or Republican
ever again.
What's the alternative? Libertarians? They've never managed to get over 2% of the votes. Greens? Don't really want to go back to living in trees and eating grass. Constitution party? Bunch of religious nutjobs. Tea party? Just a republican shell game.
Face it, the deck is stacked against third parties. The only way to create change is from within.
or Republican
ever again.
Well, enjoy wasting your vote on fringe candidates who won't go anywhere.
Generally, I would agree that voting is usually a choice between the lesser of two evils.
2012 was a choice between an ineffective, much too passive President who is a weak leader and an opponent who was a tool of the wealthy and a member of an insane religious cult.
given those choices, I had to vote against the insane religious cult on principle.
Now, it would be nice to see smarter, better people run for office, but frankly, those people get weeded out in College Politics. Only the incurables run for office.
I'll also never vote Democrat. Unfortunately I live in a "swing" state and as long as it remain one, I will vote Republican while holding my nose because a vote for a 3rd party in a swing state is a vote for the Democrats.
Pretty sure it's a vote for the third party. You do realize you're aiding in continuing the problem, not solving it, right?
Well said.
Vichy America has a lot to answer for. No question about that.
Hope you all enjoy voting for democrats.I won't do that.
I agree with USNavyVet.
If stupid, moderate, republicans hadn't voted for Ross Perot, we wouldn't have had to suffer 8 years of a Clinton administration.
Yeah, yeah. Scary black people saying stuff you don't like. Got it.
Yeah, yea. Play the race card when people say stuff you don't like. Got it.
Not at all.
You guys countered some serious concerns about Mormonism and their fanaticism for a church that Obama QUIT.
I'll repeat that. He QUIT when someone raised concerns over the things said at that church. Which means he wasn't that committed to that Church or its leader.
and what did Wright say that was soooooo horrible? That 9-11 was God's judgement on America for her racism and colonialism?
Yeah. That's silly, especially considering there is no God. But no sillier than Pat Robertson saying that Gays and Feminists were responsible for 9/11.
I'll also never vote Democrat. Unfortunately I live in a "swing" state and as long as it remain one, I will vote Republican while holding my nose because a vote for a 3rd party in a swing state is a vote for the Democrats.
Pretty sure it's a vote for the third party. You do realize you're aiding in continuing the problem, not solving it, right?
Bullshit. The problem is ignorant sheep who think you should only vote democrat or republican. There is no good reason to join them.
