If you want a better America, stop the hate

[Redfish]

I disagree. The president's daughter being called a kunt on national TV is a first. We're going in the wrong direction.

Really? You think that's where it dissolved? (It was cable TV)

There have been a hell of a lot more "firsts" with Trump before a comedian called someone a c-word during a bit.

but you approve of Bill Clinton's actions with women and of Hillary trying to destroy his victims. Hypocrisy = liberal

You should try living in a more fact based world.

Reality Check: Did Hillary Clinton attack her husband's accusers? - CNNPolitics

It is not for me to approve or disapprove of any consenting adults actions inside a bedroom or marriage.

Any other non sequitur silliness you would like to address?

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

 

[mdk]

I wish you worthless motherfuckers would stop all the hate.

 

[Seawytch]

Really? You think that's where it dissolved? (It was cable TV)

There have been a hell of a lot more "firsts" with Trump before a comedian called someone a c-word during a bit.

but you approve of Bill Clinton's actions with women and of Hillary trying to destroy his victims. Hypocrisy = liberal

You should try living in a more fact based world.

Reality Check: Did Hillary Clinton attack her husband's accusers? - CNNPolitics

It is not for me to approve or disapprove of any consenting adults actions inside a bedroom or marriage.

Any other non sequitur silliness you would like to address?

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

 

[Redfish]

but you approve of Bill Clinton's actions with women and of Hillary trying to destroy his victims. Hypocrisy = liberal

You should try living in a more fact based world.

Reality Check: Did Hillary Clinton attack her husband's accusers? - CNNPolitics

It is not for me to approve or disapprove of any consenting adults actions inside a bedroom or marriage.

Any other non sequitur silliness you would like to address?

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

Yeah, right. as he should have been. The women accusing Clinton were credible. the ones charging Trump have not established that he did anything unlawful, its not against the law to have affairs or to pay a porn slut for her silence. It is against the law to abuse an underling in the workplace.

there is not equivalency between Clintons proven actions and Trump's alleged actions.

But as I told someone earlier, I don't care what Trump did before becoming president. I care that he is getting things done for the American people, unlike Clinton, both bushes, and Obama.

 

[Redfish]

but you approve of Bill Clinton's actions with women and of Hillary trying to destroy his victims. Hypocrisy = liberal

You should try living in a more fact based world.

Reality Check: Did Hillary Clinton attack her husband's accusers? - CNNPolitics

It is not for me to approve or disapprove of any consenting adults actions inside a bedroom or marriage.

Any other non sequitur silliness you would like to address?

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

y'all? I don't remember being part of that investigation,

 

[harmonica]

hate is not the root of our problems
education/manners/culture/discipline/etc is needed...if the family can succeed, then the community can succeed then the country succeeds
...people need jobs to eat and live--hate is not a major problem
...the problem of hate comes from the blacks who graduate at lower levels and commit crime at HIGH levels-..that's why the inner cities [ ''ghettos ] fail ---they concentrate [ obsessed with ] on ''racism/hate'' so much that they are not concentrating on the REAL problem

 

[harmonica]

We're more divided now than we've been since the 1920s, and that ended in the Great Depression. The time before that, the Civil War. Yeah, we're in trouble.

the division caused the Great Depression ??

 

[Redfish]

hate is not the root of our problems
education/manners/culture/discipline/etc is needed...if the family can succeed, then the community can succeed then the country succeeds
...people need jobs to eat and live--hate is not a major problem
...the problem of hate comes from the blacks who graduate at lower levels and commit crime at HIGH levels-..that's why the inner cities [ ''ghettos ] fail ---they concentrate [ obsessed with ] on ''racism/hate'' so much that they are not concentrating on the REAL problem

those inner city blacks are being told that their situation is caused by white greed and that they are victims. No one is telling them that they can overcome their environment and enjoy the American dream, no one is telling inner city blacks Ben Carson's story. How he came form a one parent family in the slums of Detroit to become a world renowned brain surgeon. Instead, their role models are the gang bangers and drug pushers.

 

[deanrd]

If you want a better America, stop the hate

Sorry, if you did that, Republicans would have no platform.

 

[Redfish]

If you want a better America, stop the hate

Sorry, if you did that, Republicans would have no platform.

LOL, sorry dude, that's the entire dem platform. the GOP platform is one of making America great again, and its working.

 

[Seawytch]

You should try living in a more fact based world.

Reality Check: Did Hillary Clinton attack her husband's accusers? - CNNPolitics

It is not for me to approve or disapprove of any consenting adults actions inside a bedroom or marriage.

Any other non sequitur silliness you would like to address?

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

Yeah, right. as he should have been. The women accusing Clinton were credible. the ones charging Trump have not established that he did anything unlawful, its not against the law to have affairs or to pay a porn slut for her silence. It is against the law to abuse an underling in the workplace.

there is not equivalency between Clintons proven actions and Trump's alleged actions.

But as I told someone earlier, I don't care what Trump did before becoming president. I care that he is getting things done for the American people, unlike Clinton, both bushes, and Obama.

If they had been credible, the GOP wouldn’t have had to settle on a blow job between consenting adults.

You seem to care an awful lot about the Clintons...who are private citizens not in power.

Why are we still discussing what was a non sequiter from the get go? You don’t like my sig picture? It seems to bother trumpsters and makes them think of Bill Clinton for some weird reason.

 

[Redfish]

LOLOLOLOL and you post something from CNN to try to support an invalid claim? sorry, but that dog wont hunt.

sure its not up to you or me, to approve of disapprove of what two consenting adults do in private, but it is up to us to condemn sexual attacks in the workplace, and especially the oval office of the USA. If any corporate CEO did with Clinton did, he would have been fired, charged, and convicted--------------and you know that, but refuse to acknowledge it.

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

Yeah, right. as he should have been. The women accusing Clinton were credible. the ones charging Trump have not established that he did anything unlawful, its not against the law to have affairs or to pay a porn slut for her silence. It is against the law to abuse an underling in the workplace.

there is not equivalency between Clintons proven actions and Trump's alleged actions.

But as I told someone earlier, I don't care what Trump did before becoming president. I care that he is getting things done for the American people, unlike Clinton, both bushes, and Obama.

If they had been credible, the GOP wouldn’t have had to settle on a blow job between consenting adults.

You seem to care an awful lot about the Clintons...who are private citizens not in power.

Why are we still discussing what was a non sequiter from the get go? You don’t like my sig picture? It seems to bother trumpsters and makes them think of Bill Clinton for some weird reason.

the Clinton victims were credible and told the truth, that's why Hillary tried to destroy them with lies and slander.

A BJ in the oval office of the USA between the president and an intern is not sex between consenting adults, he was taking advantage of his position, her naivte, and his power over her as her employer.

As to your silly cartoon, It reminds me why I put you on ignore several months ago. you are unable to debate the issues intelligently and everything you post is driven by your lesbianism, and your crusade to call in normal.

 

[Seawytch]

You just proved the point I was making to Mac. Thanks.

(Also, it's quite obvious that in 1993, most corporate CEOs were doing much worse than Clinton allegedly ever did...)

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

Yeah, right. as he should have been. The women accusing Clinton were credible. the ones charging Trump have not established that he did anything unlawful, its not against the law to have affairs or to pay a porn slut for her silence. It is against the law to abuse an underling in the workplace.

there is not equivalency between Clintons proven actions and Trump's alleged actions.

But as I told someone earlier, I don't care what Trump did before becoming president. I care that he is getting things done for the American people, unlike Clinton, both bushes, and Obama.

If they had been credible, the GOP wouldn’t have had to settle on a blow job between consenting adults.

You seem to care an awful lot about the Clintons...who are private citizens not in power.

Why are we still discussing what was a non sequiter from the get go? You don’t like my sig picture? It seems to bother trumpsters and makes them think of Bill Clinton for some weird reason.

the Clinton victims were credible and told the truth, that's why Hillary tried to destroy them with lies and slander.

Except she didn't, as I proved already. Investigators going after Clinton did not find them credible, only right wing Clinton haters did.

A BJ in the oval office of the USA between the president and an intern is not sex between consenting adults, he was taking advantage of his position, her naivte, and his power over her as her employer.

That's your perception, not hers. Yes, it was an inappropriate relationship because of the power dynamics, but it was consensual.

As to your silly cartoon, It reminds me why I put you on ignore several months ago. you are unable to debate the issues intelligently and everything you post is driven by your lesbianism, and your crusade to call in normal.

And yet it is YOU that has to bring up my sexuality in unrelated threads...like this one and YOU that is fixated on the Clintons, having to bring them into a conversation that had nothing to do with them. Why?

 

[initforme]

Why it always comes down to having to vote for people of immense wealth I will never agree with. All the stuff I've seen in the last 50 years is saddening. And people clamor for it. How can immense money relate to getting by?

 

[percysunshine]

Hatred is really at the root of most of our problems. We can't really even talk anymore without hating upon one another. Has it ever occurred to anyone, for instance, that our hateful society is breeding the kids that go on shooting sprees? I posit that America's biggest problem is its hateful people.

.
Ban the letter 'H' from the alphabet!

Then we will only be eating.

 

[initforme]

Not parties try to justify transgressions by shouting that the other side did it. Two wrongs make a right.

 

[Redfish]

maybe, but many of those asshole CEOs were charged and convicted. there is no "allegedly" on the Clinton file. He did sexually assault multiple women. As a women's libber, I don't understand why you would condone that.

And y'all investigated Clinton to hell and back again. You got him. He paid a fine. He was disbarred.

Yeah, right. as he should have been. The women accusing Clinton were credible. the ones charging Trump have not established that he did anything unlawful, its not against the law to have affairs or to pay a porn slut for her silence. It is against the law to abuse an underling in the workplace.

there is not equivalency between Clintons proven actions and Trump's alleged actions.

But as I told someone earlier, I don't care what Trump did before becoming president. I care that he is getting things done for the American people, unlike Clinton, both bushes, and Obama.

If they had been credible, the GOP wouldn’t have had to settle on a blow job between consenting adults.

You seem to care an awful lot about the Clintons...who are private citizens not in power.

Why are we still discussing what was a non sequiter from the get go? You don’t like my sig picture? It seems to bother trumpsters and makes them think of Bill Clinton for some weird reason.

the Clinton victims were credible and told the truth, that's why Hillary tried to destroy them with lies and slander.

Except she didn't, as I proved already. Investigators going after Clinton did not find them credible, only right wing Clinton haters did.

A BJ in the oval office of the USA between the president and an intern is not sex between consenting adults, he was taking advantage of his position, her naivte, and his power over her as her employer.

That's your perception, not hers. Yes, it was an inappropriate relationship because of the power dynamics, but it was consensual.

As to your silly cartoon, It reminds me why I put you on ignore several months ago. you are unable to debate the issues intelligently and everything you post is driven by your lesbianism, and your crusade to call in normal.

And yet it is YOU that has to bring up my sexuality in unrelated threads...like this one and YOU that is fixated on the Clintons, having to bring them into a conversation that had nothing to do with them. Why?

the Clintons get brought up to point out the hypocrisy of you liberals, sorry if that concept is beyond your mental abilities.

If the Clinton victims were lying why did they Clintons pay them off? You are hopelessly naïve. It doesn't matter if Lewinsky was a willing participant, the boss/employee relationship is the problem. Many CEOs have been fired for just that kind of workplace relationships.

 

[Redfish]

Not parties try to justify transgressions by shouting that the other side did it. Two wrongs make a right.

pointing out the hypocrisy of the left is not the same as pointing fingers and saying you did it too. The libs condemn behavior of conservatives that they condone by their own leaders.

this is about hypocrisy, not "you did it too"

 

[deanrd]

If you want a better America, stop the hate

That's not gonna happen. Republicans are the party of hate.

They have an entire and barely changing list of those they hate:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

Republicans on the USMB will say oh, but women's rights are people? Or they may say we don't hate scientists, we just don't believe them. But for the most part, they are pretty public in their hate.

Bannon tells French far-right: 'Let them call you racist'

Bannon encouraging populists to embrace ‘racist’ label confirms belief about the worldview he brought to the White House

 

[deanrd]

Hatred is really at the root of most of our problems. We can't really even talk anymore without hating upon one another. Has it ever occurred to anyone, for instance, that our hateful society is breeding the kids that go on shooting sprees? I posit that America's biggest problem is its hateful people.

"We?" I don't see a lot of hate irl. Don't judge everyone by this message board.

how about if we judge based on the media? CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY times, DC Post, etc. The hate is coming mostly from them

It's not coming from the majors or the NYT; they publish the facts and offer opinions as is everyone's right. So turn off the tv and go to your local diner for a cuppa. It's a real world out there.

Shall i post all the fake bullshit NYT post?

Please.