It’s Time to Formally Declare America A Christian Nation.

[Sunsettommy]

WHEN pence Refused to obey his boss he saved us all from the potential end of our constitutional system of peaceful transfer of power according to the electorate. THAT “RUINed” WHAT Putin hoped would happen - democratic catastrophe in the greatest democracy the world has ever seen. THATS THE RUIN I’m talking about. PWNCE RUINED WHAT Trump and Putin wanted. Get it? He ruined Trump JR’s plot that was hatched before the election results were final.

PUTIN Would have loved it had Pence not been loyal to his oath to leave office peacefully when the voters rejected him and Trump.

You are delusional since Trump spent the last three years opposing Putin with a lot of administrative sanctions stopped the pipeline between Russia and Europe which Biden lifted.

Here are a few you ignored already:

2017

Aug 2 Legislation – President Trump signs Russia sanctions bill into law (CAATSA)
President Trump signed into law the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions act (CAATSA), enacting new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

Oct 27 Release – Guidance on CAATSA Section 231(d)
The Department of State issued public guidance on the implementation of Section 231 of the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act of 2017 (CAATSA). The guidance specified 39 entities that the Department of State determined are part of – or are operating on behalf of – the Russian defense or intelligence sectors.

Sep 13 Ban – Government use of Kaspersky Labs software
The U.S. administration banned the use of Kaspersky Labs software on government computers due to Kaspersky’s ties to Russian intelligence services.

Dec 22 Announcement – Provision of lethal weapons to Ukraine
The U.S. administration approved a plan to provide Ukraine with enhanced defensive capabilities to help it fight off Russia-backed separatists.

Dec 20 Sanctions – Global Magnitsky Act
52 people and entities from Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, and elsewhere were sanctioned for alleged human rights violations and corruption.

Dec 19 Export restrictions – In response to INF Treaty violation
The Department of Commerce announced new licensing and export restrictions on Russian companies Novator and Titan-Barrikady over production of a cruise missile prohibited by the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF).

The rest in the LINK

red bolding mine

Those and many more are examples of Trump and his administration opposing Russia in various ways.

He also pushed NATO to beef up their Military support and never colluded with Russia for the WH in 2016.

Your hate is making you stupid.

 

[rightnow909]

Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to formally declare America a Christian nation.

If some of the framers intended to separate Church and state (which is not 100% certain), then it’s time to correct that mistake. it’s time for a Constitutional Amendment to declare Christianity the official belief of the United States. Here’s why:

The intent of any such separation was to prevent any single denomination from dominating or punishing members of another through government. The idea was to be religion-neutral. Noble enough. But the framers made a few critical miscalculations: They incorrectly assumed:

1. That “good” laws and “Christian” laws could be separated. They can’t. There is 100% overlap. You can’t have laws that help the people without them being Christian laws.
2. That a belief vacuum is possible in our laws. It isn’t, because the opposite of religion isn’t nothing; it’s atheism.

That’s right. When you attempt to ban Christian laws, you only allow atheist laws.

ban atheism?

no...

"we don't need no thought control..."

 

[Mashmont]

ban atheism?

no...

"we don't need no thought control..."

You didn't read. So many don't. They just react.

 

[Mashmont]

Actualy the Founders were fine with state religions, they just opposed a nationally favored sect, is all. The states could and did keep their state favored sects, many with statewide taxing powers to boot. They had no interest in some silly notion of a 'secular nation'; they just wanted to bar the Anglicans from setting themselves up as the national religion is all. The colonies had several different sects among themselves and state govts., so the establishment clause was a restriction on the Federal govt. , not the individual states.

The establishment clause itself is taken directly from one of the platforms of the Baptists, in fact, one of those 'Evul Fundie sects' commies and faggots hate.

Very interesting.

 

[Mashmont]

Why did Putin want TRUMP In the White House instead of Clinton in 2016 or Biden in 2020? Putin and Trump have white Christian nationalism as a political tool for authoritarian rule. Putin got damn close to keeping his NATO bashing Friendly POTUS in power on January 6. Pence ruined it for Putin didn’t he.

I don't know if you've been out of the country, amigo, but the whole Trump-Putin myth was busted wide open by the Special Council about, oh, five months ago (after Mueller failed to substantiate it). I realize that won't stop you from peddling the collusion lies, though. Carry on.

Opinion | Durham Unravels the Russia Case

His indictments reveal facts embarrassing to former special counsel Robert Mueller and the press.

www.wsj.com

 

[Mashmont]

Interesting...considering that "GOTT MIT UNS!" (with the Nazi eagle) was common on Wehrmacht uniform accessories.



Yeah, Catholicism is great. You could make Joseph Birmingham, Paul Desilets, Robert Gale, and Ronald Paquin spiritual advisors!



You really do want a return to witch-burnings, don't you?



Those tend to have high body counts...



Your ignorance should be corrected.



And yet..."GOTT MIT UNS" was common on Wehrmacht uniforms.

Me: "Atheists murdered 150 million in the last century"
You: "B-but what about the 19 witches you guys allegedly burned 400 years ago?"
lol.

 

[Stann]

You didn't look at the link I gave you for the evidence which means you are willfully ignorant:

Here is what the NATO Chief has to say about Trump,

USA Today

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost​

William Cummings
USA TODAY

January 27, 2019

Excerpt:

President Donald Trump "is committed to NATO" and deserves credit in obtaining $100 billion more in defense spending for the alliance, Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, said Sunday.

"President Trump has been very clear: He is committed to NATO. He stated that clearly just a few days ago and also at the NATO summit in July," Stoltenberg said on "Fox News Sunday."

LINK

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"Aug 2 Legislation – President Trump signs Russia sanctions bill into law (CAATSA)
President Trump signed into law the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions act (CAATSA), enacting new sanctions on Russia, Iran, and North Korea."

LOL,

you should slink away.......

trump never supported NATO. If the person really made that statement, he said it incorrectly. He should have said, in spite of trump, NATO got stronger. I guess you could think trump and putin for strengthening NATO. Their arrogance and ignorance continue to bolster NATO against them.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump was making withdrawal noises because he knew it would wake them up which worked.

Yes - like I said. Making withdrawal noises made Putin happy and our allies uneasy about our commitment to a common defense. How would Europe know that PUTIN friendly Trump was not serious about withdrawing from NATO if he won a second term and hardened his PUTIN friendly demeanor among the American conservative base, politicians and policy makers

​

Jun 28, 2018 - Politics & Policy

Unshackled Trump worries allies​

• Dave Lawler, author of Axios World

America’s closest allies once believed President Trump could be contained — by the likes of James Mattis, or in a pinch Emmanuel Macron, if not by the weight of his office and America’s role in the world. In recent months, they’ve all but given up on that idea.​

The bottom line: Despite repeated exhortations from U.S. officials to “pay attention to our actions, not the tweets,” Axios’ Jonathan Swan reports that European officials are reaching a new, uncomfortable consensus: no one really speaks for Trump but Trump himself.

• Case in point: After both his national security adviser and Secretary of State said election meddling would be on the table when Trump meets Vladimir Putin next month, Trump unleashed a tweet this morning again casting doubt on the conclusion that Russia had meddled at all.

As the Putin meeting will be back-to-back with an annual NATO summit, allies fear a repeat performance from two weeks ago, when Trump followed up a prickly G7 summit by castigating Justin Trudeau, before heaping praise on Kim Jong-un.

• The tension is already building:Swan reports that Trump told other leaders at the G7 that, in his mind, "NATO is as bad as NAFTA," a deal he considers an unmitigated disaster for the U.S. and a massive waste of money.
• In the same meeting, Trump said Crimea probably should belong to Russia because everyone there speaks Russian. He also said Russia should be allowed back in the G8 (it was expelled in 2014 for annexing Crimea).
• Alina Polyakova of Brookings notes: "Moscow’s aim is to destabilize the West. Luckily for Putin, the West is doing a lot of that work for him."

Alexander Vershbow, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia and deputy secretary general of NATO who is now at the Atlantic Council, says Putin "probably can't believe his lucky stars."

• "This has been the Russian and the Soviet objective — to undermine NATO, to cause it to lose its cohesion and resolve — since NATO's founding in 1949."
• Vershbow says one worrying scenario, from NATO's perspective, is that Trump could adopt Putin's line that NATO exercises and troops on the bloc's eastern flank are "provocative," echoing his statements about joint exercises with South Korea.
• On the other hand, he says, given all the speculation that the summit will be a disaster, even boilerplate statements of support from Trump would be a "tonic" to the alliance: "He likes to be a contrarian, so there's a chance."

 

[NotfooledbyW]

peddling the collusion lies

I said nothing about collusion - you Catholic liar

 

[Mashmont]

I said nothing about collusion - you Catholic liar

All you've done is in the last dozen threads is blab about Trump's ties to Putin. The lie has all been blown to hell. Yet you keep on. And now you deny it. Atheist liar.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

but the whole Trump-Putin myth was busted wide open by the Special Council about,

Actualy the Founders were fine with state religions, they just opposed a nationally favored sect, is all.

Not really. Why do you think a constitutional right to have “no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” was intended to be unavailable to Americans who resides in a state with a state run religion?

The founders were not fine with state religion as codified in the first Amendment.. The individual was liberated by our founders to freely choose a religion or no religion at all making it truly impossible for a state religion to exist with legal teeth in the United States. Hence the disestablishment period began.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

All you've done is in the last dozen threads is blab about Trump's ties to Putin.

The ties are facts. Collusion has nothing to do with it. That’s why you lied and won’t answer the question from my post that you replied to. Why did Putin favor Trump over Clinton in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020? That’s a tie you imbecile.

 

[Mashmont]

The ties are facts. Collusion has nothing to do with it. That’s why you lied and won’t answer the question from my post that you replied to. Why did Putin favor Trump over Clinton in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020? That’s a tie you imbecile.

Prove Putin did want him to win. I say he didn't. Putin knew with Trump at the helm, he couldn't invade Ukraine.

 

[Mashmont]

PUTIN IS NOT A COMMUNIST. Putin is a devout Christian. You are not only an idiot and a liar - You are a Putin loyalist and an unAmerican Deplorable waste of human life specifically in when you try to pin the blame for murder terror and genocide in Ukraine on Biden and DEMOCRATS. You are a disgrace to Catholicism and your church should excommunicate you for defiling the Teachings of Jesus Christ if you still attend.

You're a loon. Stop wasting my time.

 

[Mashmont]

The person I directed the post towards has been one I argued with as much as agreed with.

And if anyone was embarrassed, it would be the one who used a Reddit post as "proof" of his claims.

Three people making a claim is more than you have. You made up something out of thin air.

 

[DudleySmith]

Not really. Why do you think a constitutional right to have “no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” was intended to be unavailable to Americans who resides in a state with a state run religion?

The founders were not fine with state religion as codified in the first Amendment.. The individual was liberated by our founders to freely choose a religion or no religion at all making it truly impossible for a state religion to exist with legal teeth in the United States. Hence the disestablishment period began.

You're an uneducated dumbass fed fake history in school. The last state tax supported church in the U.S. was Massachusetts, in 1833, and not by any Supreme Court ruling, but due to demographic changes. Some states required govt. officials to be Protestants until 1961 or so, that due to a Supreme Court ruling. Other states allowed tax payers to choose which sects got their tax monies, but they still had to pay taxes to a religious body.

And, many Federal officials attended church services in Federal buildings, including President Jefferson himself.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj_8b7OnKH3AhWhlWoFHbzRB2oQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsalempress.com%2FMedia%2FSalemPress%2Fsamples%2Fci_jefferson_pgs.pdf&usg=AOvVaw33MCkEZaqFtb4exO4LyuQY

This essay will narrate particular occurrences in which the
Capitol Building in Washington, DC was used for religious services
and consider the rationale behind such events. I argue that these
events show that policies of religious liberty in the Constitution
represented a response to a history of religious oppression and
dissension in Europe, as well as an attempt to find unity amidst
the colonies’ diverse religious perspectives. While a sense of the
religiosity (and the cultural and political power of an assumed
pan-Protestant identity) of the nation can be ascertained from
these events, the services speak more to a civil religion that was a
foundational part of the country’s emerging national identity.

Sorry for the Xian bashers and asssorted left and right wing sociopaths, but the Founders were a long way from supporting banning Da Evul Xians from any government buildings or laws in their day. They were for the most part dedicated WASPs.

 

[Mashmont]

A United Congress is sending all the aid to the Ukraine. Democrats and Republicans alike our responding. Your statement is false and idiotic. Just like the idea of saying America is a Christian Nation, it can never happen. That would be a slap in the face to all other Americans who aren't Christians. Which by the way is becoming a larger and larger proportion of the population. Your proposal might have made sense 100 years ago but it is no longer practical. That's at its best at it's worse it would foster fascism not Christian values.

A weak accessory like Biden is allowing the worldwide Marxists to have their way. Trump would never have allowed this invasion of Ukraine.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump at the helm, he couldn't invade Ukraine.

Why would that be?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Stop wasting my time.

Stop wasting my time.

Running again already. Truth hurts doesn’t it

 

[NotfooledbyW]

but the Founders were a long way from supporting banning Da Evul Xians from any government buildings or laws in their day. T

The founders banned no Christians from doing any lawful activity. Who are You arguing with?