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Thanks for proving you are not interested in the truth. The man spent 15 years as an executive VP at CIGNA, one of the largest in insurance corporations in the country. He is willing to let you in on the scam. But instead, you choose to remain blind.
Liberals are well aware of the dangers of government. But you people on the right are totally blind to the dangers of huge corporations and cartel. But for conservatives, there is only ONE entity you people fear. Ironic, it is the very entity that our founding fathers created to address grievances, prevent malfeasance and protect We, the People.
neither government or corporations are inherently evil. Its the people who run them that are sometimes evil. Root out the bad people, the institutions are just fine.
Just get rid of all the bad people lol. What a grand idea!
Thanks for proving you are not interested in the truth. The man spent 15 years as an executive VP at CIGNA, one of the largest in insurance corporations in the country. He is willing to let you in on the scam. But instead, you choose to remain blind.
Liberals are well aware of the dangers of government. But you people on the right are totally blind to the dangers of huge corporations and cartel. But for conservatives, there is only ONE entity you people fear. Ironic, it is the very entity that our founding fathers created to address grievances, prevent malfeasance and protect We, the People.
neither government or corporations are inherently evil. Its the people who run them that are sometimes evil. Root out the bad people, the institutions are just fine.
Just get rid of all the bad people lol. What a grand idea!
When that program aired Obamacare was still in the talking phase. It wasn't even a bill yet, much less one that Congress had passed so they could find out what was in it.
So let's get real. Again I ask you to provide any credible source that can dispute the facts included in those links I provided or that PC just provided. Authoritarian government have been doing really bad things 'for the good of the people' for a very long time now. And our government has done a very bad thing with Obamacare no matter how much the uneducated and gullible want to believe that it is wonderful.
Translation...you're not going to watch it...
I did watch it. And it did not dispute a single fact in any of those links I posted.
neither government or corporations are inherently evil. Its the people who run them that are sometimes evil. Root out the bad people, the institutions are just fine.
Just get rid of all the bad people lol. What a grand idea!
Madoff is in jail, Ken Lay is dead, Hitler is dead, Castro is dying, clinton is out of office, LBJ is dead, Oswald is dead, McVeigh is dead, OBL is dead, Rostenkowski went to jail.
sometimes bad people do get what they deserve. Why do you find that funny?
Just get rid of all the bad people lol. What a grand idea!
Madoff is in jail, Ken Lay is dead, Hitler is dead, Castro is dying, clinton is out of office, LBJ is dead, Oswald is dead, McVeigh is dead, OBL is dead, Rostenkowski went to jail.
sometimes bad people do get what they deserve. Why do you find that funny?
Placing Clinton and LBJ in the same group as Hitler and McVeigh. Wow, what a piece of shit you are.
Translation...you're not going to watch it...
I did watch it. And it did not dispute a single fact in any of those links I posted.
You watched it? Please give me a recap?
If you really did watch it, you would know that insurance corporations have been doing really bad things, and not even 'for the good of the people', but only for the good of their profits. Even REAL death panels, where Americans DIE, and claims department personnel are rewarded and incentivized to deny expensive treatments to fellow Americans facing serious and fatal illnesses AND then in the middle of fighting for their lives, they have to face bankruptcy and losing everything worked their whole life for to add the final dagger.
Like fucking hell you are.Liberals are well aware of the dangers of government.
Huge corporations get their power from only one place: the huge gubmint that regulates them and extends to them their limited liabilities...The same huge gubmint that ignoramus dweebs like you want to make even more huge, in the name of saving us from the corporations that they pretty much control like the mob Don controls his Capos.But you people on the right are totally blind to the dangers of huge corporations and cartel. But for conservatives, there is only ONE entity you people fear. Ironic, it is the very entity that our founding fathers created to address grievances, prevent malfeasance and protect We, the People.
I am not 'spinning' anything. Those were not my words, they were the words of David Frum - Republican and former speechwriter for George W. Bush
"At the beginning of this process we (Republicans) made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994."
If you are interested in the truth, invest a half hour listening to Wendell Potter, he was VP of corporate communications at CIGNA for 15 years. It is very revealing and enlightening.
Wendell Potter on Profits Before Patients | PBS
Check out the part about a memo, from Frank Luntz. He's the Republican strategist who had written the script for opponents of health care reform. "First," he says, "you have to pretend to support it. Then use phrases like, "government takeover," "delayed care is denied care," "consequences of rationing," "bureaucrats, not doctors prescribing medicine." That was a memo, by Frank Luntz, to the opponents of health care reform in this debate. Now watch how Republicans parrot those comments.
REP. JOHN BOEHNER: The forthcoming plan from Democratic leaders will make health care more expensive, limit treatments, ration care, and put bureaucrats in charge of medical decisions rather than patients and doctors.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Americans need to realize that when someone says "government option," what could really occur is a government takeover that soon could lead to government bureaucrats denying and delaying care, and telling Americans what kind of care they can have.
SEN. JON KYL: Washington run healthcare would diminish Americans' access to quality care, leading to denials, shortages and long delays for treatment.
REP. JOE WILSON: How will a government run health plan not lead to the same rationing of care that we have seen in other countries?
REP. TOM PRICE: We don't want to put the government, we don't want to put bureaucrats between a doctor and a patient.
If you can be well without health, you may be happy without virtue.
Edmund Burke
The next link from PBS, is liberally biased. I will not fall for any more of this hackery from you. You need to enlighten yourself on more than just the Liberal demagoguery coming from your own party.
Thanks for proving you are not interested in the truth. The man spent 15 years as an executive VP at CIGNA, one of the largest in insurance corporations in the country. He is willing to let you in on the scam. But instead, you choose to remain blind.
Liberals are well aware of the dangers of government. But you people on the right are totally blind to the dangers of huge corporations and cartel. But for conservatives, there is only ONE entity you people fear. Ironic, it is the very entity that our founding fathers created to address grievances, prevent malfeasance and protect We, the People.
I did watch it. And it did not dispute a single fact in any of those links I posted.
You watched it? Please give me a recap?
If you really did watch it, you would know that insurance corporations have been doing really bad things, and not even 'for the good of the people', but only for the good of their profits. Even REAL death panels, where Americans DIE, and claims department personnel are rewarded and incentivized to deny expensive treatments to fellow Americans facing serious and fatal illnesses AND then in the middle of fighting for their lives, they have to face bankruptcy and losing everything worked their whole life for to add the final dagger.
And despite the eeeeeeevil insurance companies focusing on their profits, they served us very well before government started meddling. There were good insurance companies and not so good insurance companies just as there are good restaurants and restaurants that suck. People are fallible, sometimes stupid, sometimes oppportunistic, sometimes dishonest. But to put all insurance companies in the same box is just as wrong as putting all Democrats into the same box or all Republicans into the same box.
However, once the government started meddling, it became more profitable for the insurance companies to please government instead of their customers. And the system did become very skewed. They'll pay the price though when the government takes it all over and puts the insurance companies out of business. And we the people will suffer the consequences of that in a much much worse way that any anecdotal consequences of a few bad insurance companies.
neither government or corporations are inherently evil. Its the people who run them that are sometimes evil. Root out the bad people, the institutions are just fine.
Just get rid of all the bad people lol. What a grand idea!
Madoff is in jail, Ken Lay is dead, Hitler is dead, Castro is dying, clinton is out of office, LBJ is dead, Oswald is dead, McVeigh is dead, OBL is dead, Rostenkowski went to jail.
sometimes bad people do get what they deserve. Why do you find that funny?
I did watch it. And it did not dispute a single fact in any of those links I posted.
You watched it? Please give me a recap?
If you really did watch it, you would know that insurance corporations have been doing really bad things, and not even 'for the good of the people', but only for the good of their profits. Even REAL death panels, where Americans DIE, and claims department personnel are rewarded and incentivized to deny expensive treatments to fellow Americans facing serious and fatal illnesses AND then in the middle of fighting for their lives, they have to face bankruptcy and losing everything worked their whole life for to add the final dagger.
And despite the eeeeeeevil insurance companies focusing on their profits, they served us very well before government started meddling. There were good insurance companies and not so good insurance companies just as there are good restaurants and restaurants that suck. People are fallible, sometimes stupid, sometimes oppportunistic, sometimes dishonest. But to put all insurance companies in the same box is just as wrong as putting all Democrats into the same box or all Republicans into the same box.
However, once the government started meddling, it became more profitable for the insurance companies to please government instead of their customers. And the system did become very skewed. They'll pay the price though when the government takes it all over and puts the insurance companies out of business. And we the people will suffer the consequences of that in a much much worse way that any anecdotal consequences of a few bad insurance companies.
That's not insurance....That's pre-paid medical.
BIG difference.
You watched it? Please give me a recap?
If you really did watch it, you would know that insurance corporations have been doing really bad things, and not even 'for the good of the people', but only for the good of their profits. Even REAL death panels, where Americans DIE, and claims department personnel are rewarded and incentivized to deny expensive treatments to fellow Americans facing serious and fatal illnesses AND then in the middle of fighting for their lives, they have to face bankruptcy and losing everything worked their whole life for to add the final dagger.
And despite the eeeeeeevil insurance companies focusing on their profits, they served us very well before government started meddling. There were good insurance companies and not so good insurance companies just as there are good restaurants and restaurants that suck. People are fallible, sometimes stupid, sometimes oppportunistic, sometimes dishonest. But to put all insurance companies in the same box is just as wrong as putting all Democrats into the same box or all Republicans into the same box.
However, once the government started meddling, it became more profitable for the insurance companies to please government instead of their customers. And the system did become very skewed. They'll pay the price though when the government takes it all over and puts the insurance companies out of business. And we the people will suffer the consequences of that in a much much worse way that any anecdotal consequences of a few bad insurance companies.
Another fallacy. Here is an excellent website written by a doctor. He gives an insider's view into our broken health care for profit over patient system.
Healthcare - Home
My goal for this website was to try to understand a system that has an enormous financial impact on everyone, but makes almost no sense to anyone. It's a system with hidden costs, enormous mark ups to discourage direct payment and a labyrinth of billing and reimbursement schedules that almost guarantee that no person directly involved could ever understand it. And we've started to see why this system is set up this way, who benefits from it, and who loses. The question is: How did it get this way?
I've only been in practice for about a decade and the system, as it is, began evolving long before my medical career began. Still, I can only guess that decades ago when insurance companies started to pay for medical costs, no one intended for it to end up like this. Insurance companies were originally run by doctors. Their idea was to spread the risk. They had a sense that getting sick usually wasn't fair, so going bankrupt because you were sick probably also wasn't fair. They had the idea that pooling people in advance made it easier on everyone, and improved access to healthcare.
It's a great irony that only a few years later, some business people (people who are very good with money, but not so interested in medicine) realized that they could make a lot of money on health insurance if they created a special insurance plan that excluded the sickest people. In other words, insurance for people who probably didn't need it, which was very different from the original idea of health insurance for everyone, but far more profitable. The idea of preexisting conditions is almost as old as health insurance itself.
Here's one way to look at how the system came to be: People usually try to find occupations that follow what they love, at least in the beginning. Hospitals can be callous in their billing, as we've seen, and doctors like money as much as anyone else, but fundamentally there was a point in their lives when they (doctors and people who run hospitals) decided to get into the profession of helping sick people. Some are genuinely compassionate. Some are biology wonks or technology wonks, or just like the action. But most of them lose interest pretty quickly when they have to start dealing with complicated financial matters like insurance payments.
The first insurance companies were started by doctors, but they couldn't stay in the game when the money professionals started showing. They couldn't compete financially, and they didn't have the mindset to try. So they did what most of us do: focus on the details that interested them (medicine), and left the tedious stuff (finances) to someone who was interested in it (insurance companies). Now the insurance companies could start building a system in their image.
As the system grew and healthcare became more complex, more people came into the health insurance industry who had a good understanding of money but little interest in healthcare. It's no secret that confused people are easier to take advantage of, so layers of confusion were slowly piled on and profits soared.
Doctors, hospitals, and other healthcare providers didn't protest as the process slowly grew away from them because, while this was happening, they too, were making money, and didn't think they needed to worry about it. As the system became less and less transparent, insurance companies were careful to make sure that all of the major players were kept very happy. But you can't keep everyone happy forever, and when things get tight, that's when you start to learn who's running the system. Now, after 30 to 40 years of slowly allowing all of our understanding of the financial transactions to erode, we are left seeing more and more money dumped into a black hole with little understanding of what happens to it.
It's rare to see a discussion about healthcare costs that isn't centered on co-pays, premiums, and deductibles. These are all indirect costs. They tell you almost nothing about the cost of the final product (the medical services that you might need). If the cost of individual components of healthcare are mentioned at all in these conversations, the price given is usually the billing charge. But the billing charge has little to do with what health care costs either. You've seen in almost every section of this discussion that the billing charge is a hugely inflated price that almost no one ever pays.
Why would anyone want us to focus on a price that's almost never paid (unless you don't have insurance, of course)? Well, one reason might be that it makes it look like all that money is really going into paying for our health care. We all know how important an MRI can be, or an Emergency Room visit, and as long as people think an MRI really costs $4,000, and an ER visit costs $4,500, maybe they'll resign themselves to paying big insurance premiums, and we can all tell ourselves that it's the only way we can continue to have "the best health care in the world."
But if these charges have nothing to do with reality, then neither do any of the discussions. MRI's and ER visits cost hundreds of dollars, not thousands! This is all a very effective diversion because, if no one ever addresses the real problem, it's unlikely a real solution will ever be proposed. And if you don't want people to find out where their money is going, it helps to have them looking in the wrong place.
I am not 'spinning' anything. Those were not my words, they were the words of David Frum - Republican and former speechwriter for George W. Bush
"At the beginning of this process we (Republicans) made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obamas Waterloo just as healthcare was Clintons in 1994."
If you are interested in the truth, invest a half hour listening to Wendell Potter, he was VP of corporate communications at CIGNA for 15 years. It is very revealing and enlightening.
Wendell Potter on Profits Before Patients | PBS
Check out the part about a memo, from Frank Luntz. He's the Republican strategist who had written the script for opponents of health care reform. "First," he says, "you have to pretend to support it. Then use phrases like, "government takeover," "delayed care is denied care," "consequences of rationing," "bureaucrats, not doctors prescribing medicine." That was a memo, by Frank Luntz, to the opponents of health care reform in this debate. Now watch how Republicans parrot those comments.
REP. JOHN BOEHNER: The forthcoming plan from Democratic leaders will make health care more expensive, limit treatments, ration care, and put bureaucrats in charge of medical decisions rather than patients and doctors.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL: Americans need to realize that when someone says "government option," what could really occur is a government takeover that soon could lead to government bureaucrats denying and delaying care, and telling Americans what kind of care they can have.
SEN. JON KYL: Washington run healthcare would diminish Americans' access to quality care, leading to denials, shortages and long delays for treatment.
REP. JOE WILSON: How will a government run health plan not lead to the same rationing of care that we have seen in other countries?
REP. TOM PRICE: We don't want to put the government, we don't want to put bureaucrats between a doctor and a patient.
If you can be well without health, you may be happy without virtue.
Edmund Burke
The next link from PBS, is liberally biased. I will not fall for any more of this hackery from you. You need to enlighten yourself on more than just the Liberal demagoguery coming from your own party.
Thanks for proving you are not interested in the truth. The man spent 15 years as an executive VP at CIGNA, one of the largest in insurance corporations in the country. He is willing to let you in on the scam. But instead, you choose to remain blind.
Liberals are well aware of the dangers of government. But you people on the right are totally blind to the dangers of huge corporations and cartel. But for conservatives, there is only ONE entity you people fear. Ironic, it is the very entity that our founding fathers created to address grievances, prevent malfeasance and protect We, the People.
the Democrat Party was correctly identified as the party of slavery and segregation.
And despite the eeeeeeevil insurance companies focusing on their profits, they served us very well before government started meddling. There were good insurance companies and not so good insurance companies just as there are good restaurants and restaurants that suck. People are fallible, sometimes stupid, sometimes oppportunistic, sometimes dishonest. But to put all insurance companies in the same box is just as wrong as putting all Democrats into the same box or all Republicans into the same box.
However, once the government started meddling, it became more profitable for the insurance companies to please government instead of their customers. And the system did become very skewed. They'll pay the price though when the government takes it all over and puts the insurance companies out of business. And we the people will suffer the consequences of that in a much much worse way that any anecdotal consequences of a few bad insurance companies.
Another fallacy. Here is an excellent website written by a doctor. He gives an insider's view into our broken health care for profit over patient system.
Healthcare - Home
My goal for this website was to try to understand a system that has an enormous financial impact on everyone, but makes almost no sense to anyone. It's a system with hidden costs, enormous mark ups to discourage direct payment and a labyrinth of billing and reimbursement schedules that almost guarantee that no person directly involved could ever understand it. And we've started to see why this system is set up this way, who benefits from it, and who loses. The question is: How did it get this way?
I've only been in practice for about a decade and the system, as it is, began evolving long before my medical career began. Still, I can only guess that decades ago when insurance companies started to pay for medical costs, no one intended for it to end up like this. Insurance companies were originally run by doctors. Their idea was to spread the risk. They had a sense that getting sick usually wasn't fair, so going bankrupt because you were sick probably also wasn't fair. They had the idea that pooling people in advance made it easier on everyone, and improved access to healthcare.
It's a great irony that only a few years later, some business people (people who are very good with money, but not so interested in medicine) realized that they could make a lot of money on health insurance if they created a special insurance plan that excluded the sickest people. In other words, insurance for people who probably didn't need it, which was very different from the original idea of health insurance for everyone, but far more profitable. The idea of preexisting conditions is almost as old as health insurance itself.
Here's one way to look at how the system came to be: People usually try to find occupations that follow what they love, at least in the beginning. Hospitals can be callous in their billing, as we've seen, and doctors like money as much as anyone else, but fundamentally there was a point in their lives when they (doctors and people who run hospitals) decided to get into the profession of helping sick people. Some are genuinely compassionate. Some are biology wonks or technology wonks, or just like the action. But most of them lose interest pretty quickly when they have to start dealing with complicated financial matters like insurance payments.
The first insurance companies were started by doctors, but they couldn't stay in the game when the money professionals started showing. They couldn't compete financially, and they didn't have the mindset to try. So they did what most of us do: focus on the details that interested them (medicine), and left the tedious stuff (finances) to someone who was interested in it (insurance companies). Now the insurance companies could start building a system in their image.
As the system grew and healthcare became more complex, more people came into the health insurance industry who had a good understanding of money but little interest in healthcare. It's no secret that confused people are easier to take advantage of, so layers of confusion were slowly piled on and profits soared.
Doctors, hospitals, and other healthcare providers didn't protest as the process slowly grew away from them because, while this was happening, they too, were making money, and didn't think they needed to worry about it. As the system became less and less transparent, insurance companies were careful to make sure that all of the major players were kept very happy. But you can't keep everyone happy forever, and when things get tight, that's when you start to learn who's running the system. Now, after 30 to 40 years of slowly allowing all of our understanding of the financial transactions to erode, we are left seeing more and more money dumped into a black hole with little understanding of what happens to it.
It's rare to see a discussion about healthcare costs that isn't centered on co-pays, premiums, and deductibles. These are all indirect costs. They tell you almost nothing about the cost of the final product (the medical services that you might need). If the cost of individual components of healthcare are mentioned at all in these conversations, the price given is usually the billing charge. But the billing charge has little to do with what health care costs either. You've seen in almost every section of this discussion that the billing charge is a hugely inflated price that almost no one ever pays.
Why would anyone want us to focus on a price that's almost never paid (unless you don't have insurance, of course)? Well, one reason might be that it makes it look like all that money is really going into paying for our health care. We all know how important an MRI can be, or an Emergency Room visit, and as long as people think an MRI really costs $4,000, and an ER visit costs $4,500, maybe they'll resign themselves to paying big insurance premiums, and we can all tell ourselves that it's the only way we can continue to have "the best health care in the world."
But if these charges have nothing to do with reality, then neither do any of the discussions. MRI's and ER visits cost hundreds of dollars, not thousands! This is all a very effective diversion because, if no one ever addresses the real problem, it's unlikely a real solution will ever be proposed. And if you don't want people to find out where their money is going, it helps to have them looking in the wrong place.
Just because this is written by a doctor, doesn't lend it any more credence than if had had been written by Kathleen Sebelius. Sure, I'm gonna take the premonitions of a random doctor in the San Francisco Bay area over reality.
You're through.
Another fallacy. Here is an excellent website written by a doctor. He gives an insider's view into our broken health care for profit over patient system.
Healthcare - Home
My goal for this website was to try to understand a system that has an enormous financial impact on everyone, but makes almost no sense to anyone. It's a system with hidden costs, enormous mark ups to discourage direct payment and a labyrinth of billing and reimbursement schedules that almost guarantee that no person directly involved could ever understand it. And we've started to see why this system is set up this way, who benefits from it, and who loses. The question is: How did it get this way?
I've only been in practice for about a decade and the system, as it is, began evolving long before my medical career began. Still, I can only guess that decades ago when insurance companies started to pay for medical costs, no one intended for it to end up like this. Insurance companies were originally run by doctors. Their idea was to spread the risk. They had a sense that getting sick usually wasn't fair, so going bankrupt because you were sick probably also wasn't fair. They had the idea that pooling people in advance made it easier on everyone, and improved access to healthcare.
It's a great irony that only a few years later, some business people (people who are very good with money, but not so interested in medicine) realized that they could make a lot of money on health insurance if they created a special insurance plan that excluded the sickest people. In other words, insurance for people who probably didn't need it, which was very different from the original idea of health insurance for everyone, but far more profitable. The idea of preexisting conditions is almost as old as health insurance itself.
Here's one way to look at how the system came to be: People usually try to find occupations that follow what they love, at least in the beginning. Hospitals can be callous in their billing, as we've seen, and doctors like money as much as anyone else, but fundamentally there was a point in their lives when they (doctors and people who run hospitals) decided to get into the profession of helping sick people. Some are genuinely compassionate. Some are biology wonks or technology wonks, or just like the action. But most of them lose interest pretty quickly when they have to start dealing with complicated financial matters like insurance payments.
The first insurance companies were started by doctors, but they couldn't stay in the game when the money professionals started showing. They couldn't compete financially, and they didn't have the mindset to try. So they did what most of us do: focus on the details that interested them (medicine), and left the tedious stuff (finances) to someone who was interested in it (insurance companies). Now the insurance companies could start building a system in their image.
As the system grew and healthcare became more complex, more people came into the health insurance industry who had a good understanding of money but little interest in healthcare. It's no secret that confused people are easier to take advantage of, so layers of confusion were slowly piled on and profits soared.
Doctors, hospitals, and other healthcare providers didn't protest as the process slowly grew away from them because, while this was happening, they too, were making money, and didn't think they needed to worry about it. As the system became less and less transparent, insurance companies were careful to make sure that all of the major players were kept very happy. But you can't keep everyone happy forever, and when things get tight, that's when you start to learn who's running the system. Now, after 30 to 40 years of slowly allowing all of our understanding of the financial transactions to erode, we are left seeing more and more money dumped into a black hole with little understanding of what happens to it.
It's rare to see a discussion about healthcare costs that isn't centered on co-pays, premiums, and deductibles. These are all indirect costs. They tell you almost nothing about the cost of the final product (the medical services that you might need). If the cost of individual components of healthcare are mentioned at all in these conversations, the price given is usually the billing charge. But the billing charge has little to do with what health care costs either. You've seen in almost every section of this discussion that the billing charge is a hugely inflated price that almost no one ever pays.
Why would anyone want us to focus on a price that's almost never paid (unless you don't have insurance, of course)? Well, one reason might be that it makes it look like all that money is really going into paying for our health care. We all know how important an MRI can be, or an Emergency Room visit, and as long as people think an MRI really costs $4,000, and an ER visit costs $4,500, maybe they'll resign themselves to paying big insurance premiums, and we can all tell ourselves that it's the only way we can continue to have "the best health care in the world."
But if these charges have nothing to do with reality, then neither do any of the discussions. MRI's and ER visits cost hundreds of dollars, not thousands! This is all a very effective diversion because, if no one ever addresses the real problem, it's unlikely a real solution will ever be proposed. And if you don't want people to find out where their money is going, it helps to have them looking in the wrong place.
Just because this is written by a doctor, doesn't lend it any more credence than if had had been written by Kathleen Sebelius. Sure, I'm gonna take the premonitions of a random doctor in the San Francisco Bay area over reality.
You're through.
Show me where he is wrong? This is not partisan stuff.
Just because this is written by a doctor, doesn't lend it any more credence than if had had been written by Kathleen Sebelius. Sure, I'm gonna take the premonitions of a random doctor in the San Francisco Bay area over reality.
You're through.
Show me where he is wrong? This is not partisan stuff.
Show me where he is right? He lists no empirical data, no charts, no proof. Just euphemistic contentions. Some random doctor in San Francisco is most certainly not going to speak for the rest of them.
I'm certain you haven't the first clue ass to what you're blabbering about, as you have to constantly steal the words of others to try and mask your utter ignorance and rank partisan hack stupidity.That's not insurance....That's pre-paid medical.
BIG difference.
That is insurance, not prepaid medical. Dr. Belk is not charging his patients a monthly fee. Oh, maybe a fucking doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.
