Save the planet - buy an electric car

[sparky]

It's not so much a left/right issue, as it is an up/down one Andy

Look, there's a lot of good idea out there, but they're constantly and consistenly beaten down by our lovely oilocracy

~S~

 

[Andylusion]

It's not so much a left/right issue, as it is an up/down one Andy

Look, there's a lot of good idea out there, but they're constantly and consistenly beaten down by our lovely oilocracy

~S~

Yeah, prove it.

What 'good idea' is out there, that is being beaten down?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

I love it. This is great.

I had been wondering about this for some years now. Most of the money for infrastructure, comes from the gas tax. If you eliminated all taxes from gasoline, it would be about $1 a gallon less expensive.

So I have been wondering for years now, how is the government going to handle dealing with people who no longer buy gasoline? If everyone turns to electric cars like they promote as this big idiotic environmentally progressive move.... then tax revenue for roads and bridges would die off.

Of course that can't happen. If it does, country crashes.

So now we have the answer. The government figured out that most people who drive a gas car, are paying about $1,000 a year in taxes gas tax. So they are simply making the registration fee for an electric car, $1,000. (which based on my rough calculations, that's about what I am paying in taxes for fuel).

Of course now that these left-wing democrap progressive snots are being asked to "pay their fair share"..... they were spitting mad, and having a two-year-old toddler temper tantrum.

Typical left-winger. Demand everyone else pay higher taxes, but not themselves.

Or they can do what all other industries do and charge carbon taxes on the ones that cause the carbon. That means the Electric Cars don't pay that 1000 bucks but the gas burners do. If the generation of the electric power is what is causing the carbon then you charge the factories generating the carbon. You want to tax, tax fairly. And tell the Oil and Gas Companies to save their Lobbyist money to pay their fair share for pollution for a change.

 

[Andylusion]

not with current technology we could not make all power from non fossil sources. Maybe some day, but not in the foreseeable future.

an electric car or truck has a max range of 200 or so miles. after that it has to recharge for about 8 hours. Do you really think that would work for someone traveling across the country, or for a long haul trucker?

and you guys never consider the source of the recharge energy or the net energy loss when transferring from grid to battery to wheels to motion.

the day of the Jetsons is not here yet, sorry.

You need to check your facts.

Current Tesla Model S has up to 370 mile range.

Model S | Tesla

It can recharge 50% of that range in 20 min, 80% in 40 min.

OK, but my question remains valid with your clarifications. So how would that work out for a cross country car trip or a long haul trucker? Do you really think there will be electric trucks to replace diesel?

second question: the energy to recharge comes from????

third, how do you dispose of the toxic materials in the batteries when they wear out??

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

 

[AntonToo]

You need to check your facts.

Current Tesla Model S has up to 370 mile range.

Model S | Tesla

It can recharge 50% of that range in 20 min, 80% in 40 min.

OK, but my question remains valid with your clarifications. So how would that work out for a cross country car trip or a long haul trucker? Do you really think there will be electric trucks to replace diesel?

second question: the energy to recharge comes from????

third, how do you dispose of the toxic materials in the batteries when they wear out??

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

 

[Bush92]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

Illinois is my home state. Glad I left it. Most completely fucked-up state including California and New York.

 

[Andylusion]

OK, but my question remains valid with your clarifications. So how would that work out for a cross country car trip or a long haul trucker? Do you really think there will be electric trucks to replace diesel?

second question: the energy to recharge comes from????

third, how do you dispose of the toxic materials in the batteries when they wear out??

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

 

[AntonToo]

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy poop.

You can thank us "progress impeding left wingers" later.

 

[Andylusion]

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy. You can thank us "left wingers" later.

Truth hurts, but that's why you can't answer a single point I made. You don't have answers. You never did, never do, and never will. You are ignorant stupid people, that hold the entire human race down.

As far as I'm concerned, you people believe CO2 is a pollutant, and should do the world a favor, and kill yourself. All way to stop making CO2 with that disgusting trash filled mouth of yours.

 

[AntonToo]

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy. You can thank us "left wingers" later.

Truth hurts

Being a ranting dumbass like you hurts.

I answered, you ignored.

Lithium recycling is a much much much much much smaller problem than all the polution from petroleum extraction, transport and combusting.

Not only that, battery tech is still in infancy. Solid state batteries for automotive use are in the works (Tesla just bought Maxwell)

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You need to check your facts.

Current Tesla Model S has up to 370 mile range.

Model S | Tesla

It can recharge 50% of that range in 20 min, 80% in 40 min.

OK, but my question remains valid with your clarifications. So how would that work out for a cross country car trip or a long haul trucker? Do you really think there will be electric trucks to replace diesel?

second question: the energy to recharge comes from????

third, how do you dispose of the toxic materials in the batteries when they wear out??

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

The fix is in the method that the EU has done for the last 30 years. They set up a recycle battery program for we and dry cell batteries starting 30 years ago and have a huge jump on us in all directions. They are also not playing stupid tax games with trying to tax electric cars into oblivion. They are also recycling their batteries 100%.

You now want to blame the left on all this. What else is new. Recycling never has been high on any RW list of things to do. That's a LWers list. So don't throw up all those roadblocks so it doesn't get done and then blame theLW when it doesn't get done.

It MUST get done. Resign yourself to that fact and stop this stupidity.

 

[Dana7360]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

It won't in my state.

I don't own a completely electric car but a hybrid. I made the choice to never buy another regular gas car again in 2001 and haven't.

I can see their reason to charge those who don't pay anything into roads. Roads are mostly paid by taxes on gas. If you don't buy gas then you're not contributing to the system you're using.

I wish more people would drive more environmentally friendly vehicles.

All of this is a "might." It's not happened and if it does, what's it to you? If you don't drive one why do you care? I'm sure that they will bring down the charge to something much more reasonable.

 

[AntonToo]

At 65 miles per hour that works out to one hour stop every 5 hours.

But it’s really only one stop for lunch, because you’ll be stoping for the night after 10 hours of driving.

Not as convenient as gasoline, but definitely doable.

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Why don’t you keep your clown cars to yourselves if they are so great?

Myself, I would not be caught dead in a Prius… LOL

Clown cars?

Man you need to go take a Tesla out for a spin, will really open your eyes to the future.

I had Model X 6 seater for a weekend, it was like a car that backed up to us from 2030.

Lol
Teslas are pieces of shit, no reliability or consistency....

Ever been in one?

 

[Andylusion]

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy. You can thank us "left wingers" later.

Truth hurts

Being a ranting dumbass like you hurts.

I answered, you ignored.

Lithium recycling is a much much much much much smaller problem than all the polution from petroleum extraction, transport and combusting.

Not only that, battery tech is still in infancy. Solid state batteries for automotive use are in the works (Tesla just bought Maxwell)

...... Battery tech is still in infancy? Says who?

The first battery was made in 1800 (although some argue they made one in 250BC, read up on Baghdad Battery).

The first lithium was made in the 1970s.

I don't know how you call that infancy, when we've been pouring research into batteries for decades now.

Once again, showing you seem to know very little, and try and compensate it by speaking your ignorance boldly.

I'm all for new batteries. If something new comes up, great. But to try and base national economic policy on "something good could happen" is the thought process of a fool. Funny how a greek fable writer in 650 BC understood "don't count your chickens before they hatch", but left-wing idiots want to push national economic policy based on technology that doesn't exist yet.

 

[AntonToo]

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy. You can thank us "left wingers" later.

Truth hurts

Being a ranting dumbass like you hurts.

I answered, you ignored.

Lithium recycling is a much much much much much smaller problem than all the polution from petroleum extraction, transport and combusting.

Not only that, battery tech is still in infancy. Solid state batteries for automotive use are in the works (Tesla just bought Maxwell)

...... Battery tech is still in infancy? Says who?

The first battery was made in 1800 (although some argue they made one in 250BC, read up on Baghdad Battery).

The first lithium was made in the 1970s.

I don't know how you call that infancy, when we've been pouring research into batteries for decades now.

Once again, showing you seem to know very little, and try and compensate it by speaking your ignorance boldly.

I'm all for new batteries. If something new comes up, great. But to try and base national economic policy on "something good could happen" is the thought process of a fool. Funny how a greek fable writer in 650 BC understood "don't count your chickens before they hatch", but left-wing idiots want to push national economic policy based on technology that doesn't exist yet.

Well while you were advocating sitting on our hands National economic policy was grants and tax credits for alternative energy tech like electric cars - which are now a well proven concept and a successful product that all of major manufacturers are trying to jump on. Something good already DID happen.

So why don't you just stfu already about someone being an ignorant regressive and get back to eating that shoe.

 

[Dana7360]

Sounds more like a tax on the rich. The problem is, middle class should be driving these. And putting a huge increase like that defeats the purpose. How about raising the cost to operate a gas guzzler instead. Or tax more on those things that pollute the air and water.

The Electric car is the future but not if only the rich can afford them.

If you gave everybody an electric car, the power grid simply could not handle it.

Ours could. But then again, we aren't the brain dead idjits here that live where you live.

Sure, it could. You Russians have some fine electron lines thanks to comrade Putin. In America, however, the US grid could not handle millions of people plugging their electric cars in when they all got home from work at the same time.

Why for heavens sake do you not close the USA? Most cars stand a long night at home and a short day at work - where's the problem to load the accumulators at home or at work?

The American grid system doesn't currently have enough transformers to handle an extra 250 million vehicles hitting it all at once.

My state started building one of the largest wind farms in the nation in the 90s. When that system went on line it was way too much for the existing grid to handle.

According to you we should have just dismantled the windmills and gave up.

We didn't do that. What we did do was vote to raise our taxes to pay to build a new grid to handle all that extra electricity.

We sell it to other states and we have the 3rd lowest electric rates in the nation.

If we don't have the grid to handle that many electric cars, what's stopping us from building it?

 

[Wyatt earp]

so would the creation of the recharging energy be more or less efficient that using gasoline for that trip? Do you know? Do you care? and you have been silent on the issue of disposal of toxic batteries in the environment as well as the energy required to make them in the first place.

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy poop.

You can thank us "progress impeding left wingers" later.

We are still waiting

 

[AntonToo]

More, 3-6 times more. (Price per mile)

Batteries are recyclable

Next question.

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy poop.

You can thank us "progress impeding left wingers" later.

We are still waiting

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? Wtf are you wanting for?


Tesla's Model 3 was the best-selling luxury car of 2018

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sort of they are....
The rise of electric cars could leave us with a big battery waste problem

According to this, only 5% of lithium batteries are recycled, and even those that are recycled, only some of the metals are recycled.

For example the toxic lithium itself, ends up in a mixed waste byproduct. Which will have to be dumped somewhere at this point.

This is why the left-wing is more a hindrance to progress, than a help.

You promote stuff with a mindless uninformed "batteries are recyclable" chant, without having the slightest clue what you are talking about. If you people would get out of the way, science based logic would push forward advancement.

Instead, you just spout off this parrot AOC style idiocy "This is fix! Fartless cows, and trains that fly to Hawaii, and all batteries are recyclable!"

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy poop.

You can thank us "progress impeding left wingers" later.

We are still waiting

View attachment 261685

? Wtf are you wanting for?


Tesla's Model 3 was the best-selling luxury car of 2018

145,846 Model 3s is a big deal to you?









A Ford F-150 or Super Duty pickup was sold every 29.3 seconds on average, with nearly 1.1 million trucks purchased globally in 2018, Ford Motor Co. said Saturday.Jan 12, 2019
Ford sold an F-150 or Super Duty pickup every 29.3 seconds in 2018

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2019/01/12/...f-150.../2557609002/

 

[AntonToo]

5% are recycled BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE a serious recycling system. A problem other countries already tackled.

And how many batteries do you think it would take to match all the petroleum pollution before we even start talking about emissions from the vehicles that burn it?

It’s not even close.

No, it's not because of that. If it was practical, and affordable to do it, then people would do it. Getting the lithium out, is extremely expensive.

This is yet another problem with left-wing ignorance and stupidity, holding back the progress of the entire human race.

You people just say stuff like "If we wanted it, then it would happen!" ignoring things like cost, and science, and economics, and who is going to pay for it. Yeah, if the government just had trillions of dollars for fart-less cow research, then maybe we'd have fart-less cows. And maybe if we had trillions of dollars just laying around for unlimited recycling of batteries, then maybe we'd have unlimited recycling of batteries.

The fact is, we don't. Europe doesn't. No one does. If people like you would stop pushing unaffordable policies, we would have people finding practical solutions that do work, instead of pushing idiotic non-sense that doesn't.

I tell you what idiot, sit back and watch your ICE go the way of horse buggy poop.

You can thank us "progress impeding left wingers" later.

We are still waiting

View attachment 261685

? Wtf are you wanting for?


Tesla's Model 3 was the best-selling luxury car of 2018

145,846 Model 3s is a big deal to you?


View attachment 261686
A Ford F-150 or Super Duty pickup was sold every 29.3 seconds on average, with nearly 1.1 million trucks purchased globally in 2018, Ford Motor Co. said Saturday.Jan 12, 2019
Ford sold an F-150 or Super Duty pickup every 29.3 seconds in 2018

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2019/01/12/...f-150.../2557609002/

Yea, it's a big deal that an electric car is the best rated and a #1 seller in a major category.

We are at a foot of a mountain.