Setting the record straight on the the Civil Rights Act

[P@triot]

While doing a whole lot of lying last night, even Barack Obama let a little truth slip and admitted that Democrats vehemently opposed the Civil Rights movement...

Speaking at the Civil Rights Summit at the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library in Austin, Texas yesterday, President Obama praised President Johnson passing the “most sweeping” civil rights legislation “since Reconstruction” even though “it would anger powerful southern Democrats and committee chairmen.” On radio this morning, Pat and Stu discussed new reports that actually suggest Republicans may have played a larger role in the 1964 Civil Rights Act than they are given credit for.

“The praise of LBJ as a civil rights pioneer is nonsense. First of all, LBJ had earlier voted against civil rights, like banning lynching. He voted against eliminating poll taxes. And [he voted for] denying federal funding to segregated schools. He voted against all the measures that later made up a big part of the legislation that he finally signed,” Pat explained. “This whole thing has been turned upside down. This whole thing has been turned into Democrats are fighting for civil rights and Republicans oppose them. I don’t know how that happens.”

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.

Furthermore, a 1964 edition of Time magazine actually credits Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) for playing a large role in getting the legislation passed.

“The last thing Democrats want anybody to do – they’re counting on the fact that you don’t do this – is look into who opposed and who favored civil rights. During and before that battle really was won,” Pat concluded. “And still do this day. But they certainly don’t want you to look at the Al Gore seniors of the world and the LBJs of the world. They don’t want you to do that.”

Who was really responsible for the Civil Rights Act?

 

[P@triot]

It's important to note that the Republicans unanimously supported all Civil Rights legislation at the public level (public transportation, government buildings, etc.). The few that opposed the final Civil Rights legislation did so because they were opposed to the private sector being told what to do by government.

 

[P@triot]

Despite heavy opposition against the Civil Rights Act of 1957 by Democrats, including John F. Kennedy, Johnson was convinced that if his party could steal the 'thunder' from the Republican lead Civil Rights efforts, support among black voters would shift .

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again." --Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957

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[TheOldSchool]

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.
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If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

 

[P@triot]

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.
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If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

 

[TheOldSchool]

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.
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If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

Those same people that once elcected "Dumbocrats" are now currently electing Repubic hairs

 

[OKTexas]

If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

Those same people that once elcected "Dumbocrats" are now currently electing Repubic hairs

Actually most of those people are long dead, but nice try.

 

[KNB]

Racist Southern Confederate blue states became racist Southern Neo-Confederate red states.
https://www.google.com/search?q=southern+strategy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

 

[P@triot]

If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

Those same people that once elcected "Dumbocrats" are now currently electing Repubic hairs

Uh....no they are not. Most of them are dead chief. It has been 45 years since LBJ was last elected. You think a lot of the 40, 50, 60, and 70 year olds from then are still alive and voting?

Would you like to try again TOS? There's a charm?

 

[KNB]

Racist Southern 20-year-olds in 1964 would be in their 70s now and voting Teabagger.

 

[P@triot]

Racist Southern 20-year-olds in 1964 would be in their 70s now and voting Teabagger.

No - the few that would still be alive would still be voting Dumbocrat junior. People don't switch from government-dependent Dumbocrat parasite to independent, constitutional-government Tea Party.

You're living proof - you're a racist government-dependent parasite and you hate the Tea Party because you fear they are going to cut off your government handouts and you might actually have to get a job.

 

[jillian]

It's important to note that the Republicans unanimously supported all Civil Rights legislation at the public level (public transportation, government buildings, etc.). The few that opposed the final Civil Rights legislation did so because they were opposed to the private sector being told what to do by government.

i don't think anyone disputes that republicans were instrumental in passing the civil rights act. but i do wonder why you're basking in self-congratulatory past glory.... you know, given that your party wouldn't support civil rights now, has actively worked to repeal the voters rights act and all the racist dems are now republicans.

so i'm not quite sure where you're going with this

 

[Freewill]

If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

Those same people that once elcected "Dumbocrats" are now currently electing Repubic hairs

Actually no, they mended their ways and saw the unfairness of the democrat contrived racism and joined forces with Republicans. Those who favored states rights more then federal power went with Republicans not over race, because there would be absolutely no reason to think the party of Lincoln was more racist then the party of Byrd and the KKK.

 

[paperview]

The south has always been majority conservative throughout its history, and still is right up until this day.

Doesn't matter which party. Parties change.

Ideology doesn't.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.
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If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

When it was Ike's Bill, LBJ called it "the ****** Bill"

Democrats including Al Gore Sr were vehemently opposed to it

 

[paperview]

Lee Atwater, political consultant and strategist to the Republican Party. He was an advisor of Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and chairman of the Republican National Committee.

-- published in Southern Politics in the 1990s by Alexander P. Lamis, in which Lee Atwater discussed politics in the South:

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
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Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "******, ******, ******." By 1968 you can't say "******" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff.

You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******, ******."

Alexander P. Lamis (1999). Southern Politics in the 1990s. Louisiana State University Press. p. 408.
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[JoeB131]

It's important to note that the Republicans unanimously supported all Civil Rights legislation at the public level (public transportation, government buildings, etc.). The few that opposed the final Civil Rights legislation did so because they were opposed to the private sector being told what to do by government.

Again, guy, it's not what they did in 1964, where Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights act and got a whopping 6% of the African American vote (as opposed to Ike, who got 26% of it in 1956).

It was everything the GOP did afterwards.

It was the GOP employing the "Southern Strategy" of pandering to these segregationists after they had effectively lost the argument.

It was Nixon appealling to them in 1968.

It was Reagan talking about "Welfare Queens" and "Young Bucks" on food stamps.

It was Bush-41 showing a big scary picture of Willie Horton. (and then denying he did it.)

And here's the thing. Now it's backfiring. This might have been a good political strategy in 1980 when White people made up 88% of the electorate, but now it's less than 70%.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

As TheBlaze reports, when it came time to pass the Civil Rights Act, six Senate Republicans voted against the bill, while 21 Senate Democrats opposed it. It ultimately passed by an overall vote of 73-27. In the House, 96 Democrats and 34 Republicans voted against the Civil Rights Act, and it passed with an overall 290-130 vote. While the majority of Democrats in both chambers voted for the legislation, the bulk of the opposition came from Democrats.

The Republicans who opposed the law did so primarily because of “discomfort about forcing private business to comply with public accommodation laws.” The majority of those Republicans actually supported the 1957 and 1960 bills signed by President Dwight Eisenhower.
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If you look at the results of that vote the VAST majority of votes against the bill came from the classic confederate states. Which are currently solidly republican. I'd blame the people instead of the parties in those states.

When it was Ike's Bill, LBJ called it "the ****** Bill"

Democrats including Al Gore Sr were vehemently opposed to it

That's true. And now many conservatives have Confederate flag stickers on their trucks, fly Confederate flags off their homes and in their front yards, assume that black people are intellectually inferior, and want to repeal the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, think that black people are treating better by the justice system, and are generally racist. Just go to the race relations forum and read some of the threads started there by conservatives.

 

[paperview]

Richard Nixon chatting with Donald Rumsfeld, referring to "*******" and how many of them had just come out of the trees.

WhiteHouseTapes.org Transcript+Audio Clip

‘Well, by God.’ Well, ah, even the Southerners say, ‘Well, our ******* is better than their *******.’ Hell, that’s the way they talk!” the president said on the tape.

“That’s right,” Rumsfeld said.


“I can hear ‘em,” Nixon said.


“I know,” Rumsfeld replied.

 

[The Breeze]

One problem with your theory though chief - those "currently solidly Republican" states were clearly not Republican states back then or they wouldn't have been represented by Dumbocrats politicians.

No matter how you spin this chief, the left in this country vehemently opposed rights for African Americans. They have always looked at minorities as "useful idiots" for their cause.

Those same people that once elcected "Dumbocrats" are now currently electing Repubic hairs

Uh....no they are not. Most of them are dead chief. It has been 45 years since LBJ was last elected. You think a lot of the 40, 50, 60, and 70 year olds from then are still alive and voting?

Would you like to try again TOS? There's a charm?

I bet they are still voting.