What government or political party has the capability to get America back on track to be great?

[BULLDOG]

Yes there are problems in the country. I know there always have been, and am pretty sure they always will be problems. The value of the dollar did fall sharply after Trump quite publicly complained that it as too high in April. Poverty did trend upward after the Bush induced economy crash, but it's slowly falling back down. The president is sure that some Nazis are fine people, so the upswing of racism is no mystery. Our educational system is failing, and we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. Trumpism, Racism, hatred for education and educators, hard line laws and all the other things the right advocates doesn't seem to be making things better.

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

 

[iceberg]

America has always been great even with the problems we have. The right wing has convinced lots of idiots, and evidently you as well, that we lost our greatness. You are wrong..

No one has to convince me to see the problems in this country. The US is crumbling, the value of the dollar is decreasing, increasing racism/inequality, poverty/homeless with a minimum wage annual income just roughly $1,886 more than the Federal poverty level. The US is one of the if not the best country to be a citizen of but the government is loosing their trust with the people. I never said America isn't great but we put on a front to the world as being a perfect/big brother country. I know a few foreigners from Egypt, Morocco, India, and others. Before they came to America they had this perception that they were going to live a life they would see in music videos and on television, that everyone lived luxuriously. When they would go back to their country all their friends and family think they would be lying when they would tell them how America really is.

America is great and I'm proud to be an American but I think priorities are wrong and we need to worker harder fix the problems within our borders and no focus so much on helping other countries.

Yes there are problems in the country. I know there always have been, and am pretty sure they always will be problems. The value of the dollar did fall sharply after Trump quite publicly complained that it as too high in April. Poverty did trend upward after the Bush induced economy crash, but it's slowly falling back down. The president is sure that some Nazis are fine people, so the upswing of racism is no mystery. Our educational system is failing, and we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. Trumpism, Racism, hatred for education and educators, hard line laws and all the other things the right advocates doesn't seem to be making things better.

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

I doubt it. Yea a lot of people dislike him but just replacing him wont be enough we need action not words and a president who is actually for the people and their needs.

we can't continue to push one sides values over the other. that is the core of how we got here.

 

[iceberg]

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

 

[Darkwind]

Obviously America has been experiencing some major issues. Such as poverty, racism, people homeless, the middleclass dying out, people not being able to fully cover their annual cost of living expenses, illegal immigration, lack of affordable education, lack of affordable healthcare, unemployment, crime, mass shootings, welfare, wars with other countries, total national debt increasing, terrorism, the US dollar decreasing in value and I'm sure I missed some. So with all these issues America is experiencing, which type of government or political party do you think has the best chance getting America back on track? Or should America take on a whole different type of government?

The fault doesn't lie in our type of government - but there is an issue with the scope of it. The poison's in the dose. Ultimately, I fault the electorate, us. Our government is a reflection of the people...a totalitarian style of government is far less messy, in some ways.

The issues as you've listed them -

Poverty - we've spent over 20 Trillion fighting the war on poverty. For the most part, poverty in this country is a relative term. Compare the life style of our bottom 10% with the majority of other nations 30%. Also remember poverty designations and percentages come from government agencies whose existence depends on fighting poverty. Our biggest poverty problem today is one of the poverty of ambition.
Racism - Nothing today compares to racism pre-mid '60's. Though todays lowered expectations is a form of racism that is destructive. There are those whose power, or hold, over minorities depends, on the narrative of racism being alive and well, despite 8 years of a black president. The politics of victimhood has become profitable.
Homelessness - Also a matter of definition and in most cases temporary, or even voluntary in some instances. Are the bag lady pushing her shopping cart and the unshaven man living under a bridge homeless by choice?...are they mentally ill and belong in an institution. If you don't have interest in a home, or have a rental lease - you are technically homeless.
Middle class - the parameters are changeable - many are moving up.
Cost of living - there is a government definition of that also. But many are simply living above their income, not within or below it. Minimum wage jobs are traditionally for those just entering the job market, part time workers and retirees who are either bored or would like a little more income.
Illegal immigration - we have adequate laws - they need to be enforced.
Education - We provide free education, pre-school through 12th grade to every child who walks into the classroom. Citizen or not.
Healthcare - Currently, anyone needing care will not be turned away from any hospital. Nearly every community has a health department offering free services. The more the government becomes involved, the higher the costs of insurance and services.
Unemployment, crime, welfare - an improving economy can go a long way toward mitigating those issues.
Mass shootings - The first mass shooting I remember was the Texas Tower Sniper in 1966. The Oklahoma City bombing was 22 years ago. It takes a mentally deranged person to target innocent people. Do we have a higher percentage of mentally deranged per population than in the past? I don't know - but the media blitz on how terrible life is here, and how they define hatred and evil by your political affiliations doesn't help.
Wars with other countries - this has been an issue since the end of WWII. In looking back over the devastation and loss of life world wide during the first half of the 20th century - I can understand the mentality of 'never again' - leading to the attempt to put out small fires before they become big ones. Churchill said that never was there a more unnecessary war than WWII. Hitler could have been contained much earlier. This world has never been free of wars. In my opinion - if a war is necessary, then it must be fought by generals to be won, not politicians to be lost.
Total national debt increasing - In my opinion our biggest issue - much of which is spent trying to address all the above issues. A thriving economy and a bit of spending restraint will go a very long way toward addressing the debt, as well as some of your areas of concern. Most of the federal budget is taken up by Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - find a politician brave enough to address those issues and it might be somebody worth voting for. Though it will take more than one lawmaker - it will take an electorate who can move beyond 'getting what's coming to me'.

One more -
Affordable - An extremely subjective term. Is the latest technology 'affordable' if you choose to let others pick up the tab for your dr. bill, electric bill, food bill? If I spend more than I can make is it because I make too little, or spend too much? Credit gives us all a false sense of what we can 'afford'.

Anyway, I don't mean to diminish your concerns - am only attempting to add a little perspective. There is a big push to 'reinvent' the constitution and convince us that more government is the only solution. In my opinion more government is the problem.

Well said.

Yea these problems may have been worse in other periods of time and will never be completely absent but they could be more manageable. Free education pre-school through 12th isn't enough anymore. You cant not afford continued education just off that and with out any type of help. I don't believe the government is the reflection of the people at all. I also blame voters only voting for someone based on their race or likability. You know every black person voted for Obama because he is black and not for his promises.

So your solutions are more government. Got it.

You, and the rest of the people on this forum continue to ask the wrong question and support the wrong people out of fear of not being taken care of.

Education is not a federal responsibility. It has never been, and the fact that they created a department and funnel money through it does not alter that fact. We don't need more free education, we need better-directed education and a realization that college isn't the only answer.

I don't know about you, but I'm rather addicted to electricity and indoor plumbing, infrastructure, communications. We need elementary and high schools focused on education that matters to our economy, not to our politics. That would go a long way toward eliminating 80% of your list right there.

 

[BULLDOG]

No one has to convince me to see the problems in this country. The US is crumbling, the value of the dollar is decreasing, increasing racism/inequality, poverty/homeless with a minimum wage annual income just roughly $1,886 more than the Federal poverty level. The US is one of the if not the best country to be a citizen of but the government is loosing their trust with the people. I never said America isn't great but we put on a front to the world as being a perfect/big brother country. I know a few foreigners from Egypt, Morocco, India, and others. Before they came to America they had this perception that they were going to live a life they would see in music videos and on television, that everyone lived luxuriously. When they would go back to their country all their friends and family think they would be lying when they would tell them how America really is.

America is great and I'm proud to be an American but I think priorities are wrong and we need to worker harder fix the problems within our borders and no focus so much on helping other countries.

Yes there are problems in the country. I know there always have been, and am pretty sure they always will be problems. The value of the dollar did fall sharply after Trump quite publicly complained that it as too high in April. Poverty did trend upward after the Bush induced economy crash, but it's slowly falling back down. The president is sure that some Nazis are fine people, so the upswing of racism is no mystery. Our educational system is failing, and we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. Trumpism, Racism, hatred for education and educators, hard line laws and all the other things the right advocates doesn't seem to be making things better.

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

I doubt it. Yea a lot of people dislike him but just replacing him wont be enough we need action not words and a president who is actually for the people and their needs.

we can't continue to push one sides values over the other. that is the core of how we got here.

Oh my. Your core has been exposed to have nothing to do with family values, or religion, or any of the things the right has gone on about for the last couple of decades, so you think we should just not mention it any more. Imagine that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Not bashing trump. Opposing the crap he is trying to do.

 

[ThatDude30]

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Because that's what other people are doing. I don't care what anyone says Trump accomplished more than most people will even come close to. He might not be best fit for president but he came from nothing and that right there is proof anyone can.

 

[iceberg]

Yes there are problems in the country. I know there always have been, and am pretty sure they always will be problems. The value of the dollar did fall sharply after Trump quite publicly complained that it as too high in April. Poverty did trend upward after the Bush induced economy crash, but it's slowly falling back down. The president is sure that some Nazis are fine people, so the upswing of racism is no mystery. Our educational system is failing, and we have more people in prison than any other country in the world. Trumpism, Racism, hatred for education and educators, hard line laws and all the other things the right advocates doesn't seem to be making things better.

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

I doubt it. Yea a lot of people dislike him but just replacing him wont be enough we need action not words and a president who is actually for the people and their needs.

we can't continue to push one sides values over the other. that is the core of how we got here.

Oh my. Your core has been exposed to have nothing to do with family values, or religion, or any of the things the right has gone on about for the last couple of decades, so you think we should just not mention it any more. Imagine that.

my core is just fine. it may not agree with yours but i'm not the one demanding you change to suit my "vision" of how people should be.

as for "nothing to do with religion" - you don't fucking know me. don't go there. you are doing the typical liberal bullshit of taking what i said and forcing it into your extreme views vs. seeing what i am actually saying.

imagine that.

 

[BULLDOG]

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Because that's what other people are doing. I don't care what anyone says Trump accomplished more than most people will even come close to. He might not be best fit for president but he came from nothing and that right there is proof anyone can.

He accomplished being born into a rich family. Nothing since then. Was that due to any skill or intelligence others might be able to learn?

 

[iceberg]

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Because that's what other people are doing. I don't care what anyone says Trump accomplished more than most people will even come close to. He might not be best fit for president but he came from nothing and that right there is proof anyone can.

i don't like trump as a person. i don't have to. so far as president i'm happy with where he is going and accomplishing.

those who think the president needs to be a solid role model and ideal citizen are foolish and forget clinton's lies and own sexcipades. they overlooked that cause they liked him. they don't like trump so nothing gets overlooked.

pretty much human nature but still annoying when people can't see past that shit.

 

[iceberg]

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Not bashing trump. Opposing the crap he is trying to do.

so asshole in chief is directed at what particular action? comes across as your general trump bashing.

i want to talk about the problems, not people. people of all mixes, sides and beliefs are going to be in the mix trying to resolve them and alienating people cause you don't like them isn't helping the long term strategy all sides would benefit from.

 

[Natural Citizen]

...we need action not words and a president who is actually for the people and their needs.

We had one. The GOP created Rule # 40 and the media blacked him out. Pay particular attention to the 4:38 mark and forward...

 

[iceberg]

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Because that's what other people are doing. I don't care what anyone says Trump accomplished more than most people will even come close to. He might not be best fit for president but he came from nothing and that right there is proof anyone can.

He accomplished being born into a rich family. Nothing since then. Was that due to any skill or intelligence others might be able to learn?

except i've known people to be born wealthy and die a pauper. to win a lottery and spend a million or more in a few years and be broke again.

having a head start isn't the issue. not to me. i won't get jealous and pissed it wasn't me, i'll work to make my own life better which usually, to me, isn't accomplished by tearing down others in as much as building myself up.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

I doubt it. Yea a lot of people dislike him but just replacing him wont be enough we need action not words and a president who is actually for the people and their needs.

we can't continue to push one sides values over the other. that is the core of how we got here.

Oh my. Your core has been exposed to have nothing to do with family values, or religion, or any of the things the right has gone on about for the last couple of decades, so you think we should just not mention it any more. Imagine that.

my core is just fine. it may not agree with yours but i'm not the one demanding you change to suit my "vision" of how people should be.

as for "nothing to do with religion" - you don't fucking know me. don't go there. you are doing the typical liberal bullshit of taking what i said and forcing it into your extreme views vs. seeing what i am actually saying.

imagine that.

If you are a right winger, your goto statement suddenly went from "Our representatives HAVE to declare loyalty to Christian beliefs" to "We aren't electing a preacher" Why the sudden change?

 

[BULLDOG]

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Because that's what other people are doing. I don't care what anyone says Trump accomplished more than most people will even come close to. He might not be best fit for president but he came from nothing and that right there is proof anyone can.

i don't like trump as a person. i don't have to. so far as president i'm happy with where he is going and accomplishing.

those who think the president needs to be a solid role model and ideal citizen are foolish and forget clinton's lies and own sexcipades. they overlooked that cause they liked him. they don't like trump so nothing gets overlooked.

pretty much human nature but still annoying when people can't see past that shit.

Odd, but the right spent millions demanding role model behavior, but suddenly it's not important. Why?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Obviously America has been experiencing some major issues. Such as poverty, racism, people homeless, the middleclass dying out, people not being able to fully cover their annual cost of living expenses, illegal immigration, lack of affordable education, lack of affordable healthcare, unemployment, crime, mass shootings, welfare, wars with other countries, total national debt increasing, terrorism, the US dollar decreasing in value and I'm sure I missed some. So with all these issues America is experiencing, which type of government or political party do you think has the best chance getting America back on track? Or should America take on a whole different type of government?

A Nation Based on Birth and Not Worth Will Suffer Crib Death

Abolition of all hereditary rights. The whole specious spectrum is toxic waste from the prep schools. Those will no longer exist, so neither will the self-serving political alternatives the guillotine-fodder aristocracy offers us. Paid education will pay for itself many times over; it can all be covered initially by confiscating inheritance. What is left behind must be given to the naturally talented, not to the heirs, or our country will continue to be left behind.

 

[BULLDOG]

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

so why is bashing trump the answer to most of your problems? seems to me it's a continuation of something we know keeps us in a perpetual cycle of crap.

Not bashing trump. Opposing the crap he is trying to do.

so asshole in chief is directed at what particular action? comes across as your general trump bashing.

i want to talk about the problems, not people. people of all mixes, sides and beliefs are going to be in the mix trying to resolve them and alienating people cause you don't like them isn't helping the long term strategy all sides would benefit from.

If you think it's so important to stop alienating people, then stop. I know it will be hard after so many years. That crazy president we have will probably never be able to do it.

 

[Darkwind]

Obviously America has been experiencing some major issues. Such as poverty, racism, people homeless, the middleclass dying out, people not being able to fully cover their annual cost of living expenses, illegal immigration, lack of affordable education, lack of affordable healthcare, unemployment, crime, mass shootings, welfare, wars with other countries, total national debt increasing, terrorism, the US dollar decreasing in value and I'm sure I missed some. So with all these issues America is experiencing, which type of government or political party do you think has the best chance getting America back on track? Or should America take on a whole different type of government?

A Nation Based on Birth and Not Worth Will Suffer Crib Death

Abolition of all hereditary rights. The whole specious spectrum is toxic waste from the prep schools. Those will no longer exist, so neither will the self-serving political alternatives the guillotine-fodder aristocracy offers us. Paid education will pay for itself many times over; it can all be covered initially by confiscating inheritance. What is left behind must be given to the naturally talented, not to the heirs, or our country will continue to be left behind.

What?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Self government is the only government that will make us great.

Until we stop demanding politicians do things for us with the money off others, we won't reach our potential or solve our problems

Representation Is a Re-Presentation of Medieval Class Tyranny

The people need to be given the right to vote on all major issues. Elections aren't voting, they are a choice between pre-owned candidates who will do all the voting for us. We would have never given the vote to groups that want to freeload off the rest of us. So you're dishonestly blaming democracy for what the politicians empowered by representative government forced on us. A Constitutional Republic is hardly self-government, it is an oligarchy.

 

[Avatar4321]

There is always going to be problems. America is the first to respond to countries in need of aide or help and throw away money and resources that could better benefit the people in need in our own country. Foreigners get free education before most American citizens. How is that? Give a person not from this country a better opportunity to succeed than your own citizens? America is so worried about their image to the world and would help a foreigner before their own people.

Image problems will greatly improve as soon as we are Trumpless.

image problems will greatly improve when we stop as a culture characterizing the other side as evil by some form of current buzzword.

You might mention that to your Asshole in Chief.

are you saying we never demonized the other side til he was elected?

or is that just your excuse to hold onto so you can keep doing it?

There has been vitriol between political parties since colonial times. The most recent increase in hatred started with Tom Delay and Neut Gingrich, and has increased drastically since.

Yeah, the Clintons has nothing to do with that...