What would happen to the economy if minimum wages are raised?

[danielpalos]

it is earned simply by being unemployed on an at-wil basis in any at-will employment State. why does the right condone trampling natural rights and Individual Liberty; and claim they are not really like that, when it is about guns?

it is earned simply by being unemployed

BZZZZZT.....so sorry, thanks for playing.

employment is at will. only the right, never gets it.

do you prefer crony capitalism over equal protection of the law?

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

it is earned simply by being unemployed

BZZZZZT.....so sorry, thanks for playing.

employment is at will. only the right, never gets it.

do you prefer crony capitalism over equal protection of the law?

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

 

[danielpalos]

employment is at will. only the right, never gets it.

do you prefer crony capitalism over equal protection of the law?

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

your ignorance of the law is duly noted.

why do you believe, equal protection of the law is not a part of Due Process?

 

[RodISHI]

it is earned simply by being unemployed

BZZZZZT.....so sorry, thanks for playing.

employment is at will. only the right, never gets it.

do you prefer crony capitalism over equal protection of the law?

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

You are either very young, naive or very inexperienced; I am unsure which is the case. Generally most attorneys out there working for the general public are chickenshits unwilling to actually standup in court for their clients as they do not wanna piss off the judges whom are generally pretty corrupt themselves. That is what happens when the standards are lowered by colleges in order to bolster their own bank accounts and student enrollment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

your ignorance of the law is duly noted.

why do you believe, equal protection of the law is not a part of Due Process?

Yes, your inability to post the law which states you deserve unemployment payments is noted.

 

[Eloy]

The bottom fell out of the oil market and Venezuela lost its source of wealth.

The bottom fell out of the oil market, the US still manages to have enough toilet paper.
What makes us so much better than Venezuela?

The United States is much bigger with more resources than Venezuela and yet many people there were devastated with the economic crash. Millions of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck and only one major illness away from being wiped out. Americans deserve better with all its wealth.

The United States is much bigger with more resources than Venezuela

Ummmm....Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world, with less than 10% of the population of the US. Takes socialism to fuck that up, eh comrade?

diversification is important.

Diversify away from socialist failure.

This comment is inane.

 

[Eloy]

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

your ignorance of the law is duly noted.

why do you believe, equal protection of the law is not a part of Due Process?

Yes, your inability to post the law which states you deserve unemployment payments is noted.

Noted by whom?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The bottom fell out of the oil market, the US still manages to have enough toilet paper.
What makes us so much better than Venezuela?

The United States is much bigger with more resources than Venezuela and yet many people there were devastated with the economic crash. Millions of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck and only one major illness away from being wiped out. Americans deserve better with all its wealth.

The United States is much bigger with more resources than Venezuela

Ummmm....Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world, with less than 10% of the population of the US. Takes socialism to fuck that up, eh comrade?

diversification is important.

Diversify away from socialist failure.

This comment is inane.

So is socialism.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

your ignorance of the law is duly noted.

why do you believe, equal protection of the law is not a part of Due Process?

Yes, your inability to post the law which states you deserve unemployment payments is noted.

Noted by whom?

Me and all other non-socialists
Socialists and stoners still have no clue.

 

[hadit]

They can. It's called welfare.

that is not what welfare is for, or, it would not require means testing. Only the right wing, never gets it.

But that's what it is. Means testing is just one way to ensure those who need help get it while those who don't, don't take advantage of the system. Look at it this way, would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

it only requires it because it should be to help those for whom solving for a simple poverty of money, may not be enough. it is merely being misapplied and the right likes to complain about the Tax cost associated with that, misapplication.

Would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

no one is requiring Mr. Trump to exercise a work ethic from the Age of Iron, either.

why value a work ethic in modern times?

You're dodging the question. Tell you what, don't have a work ethic and don't work. You have that freedom, you know. Of course, you have to handle the consequences of that decision, but that's what freedom is. So, for the third time, would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Minimum wage:

1) makes it illegal to employ people not worth minimum wage
2) raises prices for poor people who often shop where minimum wage folks work
3) speeds up automation and replacement of minimum wage jobs
4) teaches people that you get ahead with govt violence rather than being worth more
5) raises prices, reduces demand, and thus reduces employment
6) makes American workers even less competitive with foreign workers
7) makes a huge % of work force (42%) minimum age workers with no incentive to improve their skills.

 

[Onyx]

Like when Trump gets his VP to pay $8,500 per worker to stay in the USA?

Well that wasn't exactly wage. Overpaying and underpaying workers are both dangerous.

 

[Onyx]

why do you believe that?

Because it's true.

micromanaging our tax codes is similar; and, our legislators enjoy it.

Your point?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Minimum wage:

1) makes it illegal to employ people not worth minimum wage
2) raises prices for poor people who often shop where minimum wage folks work
3) speeds up automation and replacement of minimum wage jobs
4) teaches people that you get ahead with govt violence rather than being worth more
5) raises prices, reduces demand, and thus reduces employment
6) makes American workers even less competitive with foreign workers
7) makes a huge % of work force (42%) minimum age workers with no incentive to improve their skills.

7) makes a huge % of work force (42%) minimum age workers with no incentive to improve their skills.

In 2014, 77.2 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.7 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.3 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.7 million had wages below the federal minimum.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/mi...racteristics-of-minimum-wage-workers-2014.pdf

3 million workers is less than 2% of the labor force, not 42%.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Minimum wage:

1) makes it illegal to employ people not worth minimum wage
2) raises prices for poor people who often shop where minimum wage folks work
3) speeds up automation and replacement of minimum wage jobs
4) teaches people that you get ahead with govt violence rather than being worth more
5) raises prices, reduces demand, and thus reduces employment
6) makes American workers even less competitive with foreign workers
7) makes a huge % of work force (42%) minimum age workers with no incentive to improve their skills.

7) makes a huge % of work force (42%) minimum age workers with no incentive to improve their skills.

In 2014, 77.2 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.7 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 1.3 million earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.7 million had wages below the federal minimum.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/mi...racteristics-of-minimum-wage-workers-2014.pdf

3 million workers is less than 2% of the labor force, not 42%.

I guess I was thinking of the $15 MW campaign. If raised to that 42% of work force would be covered

 

[frigidweirdo]

Like when Trump gets his VP to pay $8,500 per worker to stay in the USA?

Well that wasn't exactly wage. Overpaying and underpaying workers are both dangerous.

A rose by any other name.....

 

[Againsheila]

Jobs would be cut, investment diminished.

It's the value of the work that determines the pay.

BS, if the value of the job determined the pay, CEOs wouldn't be making several hundred times what their employees make and a man with a helmet defending a football wouldn't be making $millions while a man with a helmet defending our country barely makes a living.

Take a good CEO out of a company and the company fails. I saw it happen first hand at Circuit City, which went from a $10 billion company to nothing in a short period of time. As for entertainment figures making a lot of money, that's a function of the market too. When millions of people want to watch you or listen to you do something, you can make a lot of money charging them for the privilege. If millions of people wanted to watch soldiers living and fighting in a desert, soldiers would make a lot of money too.

The point is that the value of the work does not determine the pay.

 

[danielpalos]

employment is at will. only the right, never gets it.

do you prefer crony capitalism over equal protection of the law?

I just looked at the Bill of Rights, no mention of unemployment checks.
Where are you getting your info? Link?

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

You are either very young, naive or very inexperienced; I am unsure which is the case. Generally most attorneys out there working for the general public are chickenshits unwilling to actually standup in court for their clients as they do not wanna piss off the judges whom are generally pretty corrupt themselves. That is what happens when the standards are lowered by colleges in order to bolster their own bank accounts and student enrollment.

ignorance of the law excuses no one.

The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the government.--Franklin D. Roosevelt

 

[danielpalos]

equal protection of the law is part of Due Process. Only the right wing, never gets it.

So no link? No proof? Thanks for admitting your error.

equal protection of the law is about Due Process.

Yes, your lack of proof is noted.

your ignorance of the law is duly noted.

why do you believe, equal protection of the law is not a part of Due Process?

Yes, your inability to post the law which states you deserve unemployment payments is noted.

there is no basis to deny unemployment in an at-will employment State if you are not employed.

employment at will, is simply that. it also, public policy.

 

[danielpalos]

that is not what welfare is for, or, it would not require means testing. Only the right wing, never gets it.

But that's what it is. Means testing is just one way to ensure those who need help get it while those who don't, don't take advantage of the system. Look at it this way, would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

it only requires it because it should be to help those for whom solving for a simple poverty of money, may not be enough. it is merely being misapplied and the right likes to complain about the Tax cost associated with that, misapplication.

Would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

no one is requiring Mr. Trump to exercise a work ethic from the Age of Iron, either.

why value a work ethic in modern times?

You're dodging the question. Tell you what, don't have a work ethic and don't work. You have that freedom, you know. Of course, you have to handle the consequences of that decision, but that's what freedom is. So, for the third time, would you demand that Donald Trump get welfare benefits?

the consequences are recourse to the law. the law is employment at will. only the right wing, never gets it.

how is that relevant?

who cares how much Mr. Trump makes or how much he works for it? only nosey right wingers gossip about stuff like that.