Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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Heh. A ā€œPalā€™istanian historianā€ (that explains why he has nothing to do all day), is railing about The Great Satanā„¢ļø and an analogy to Germans at Auschwitz.

Apparently the billions of kuffar welfare dollars showered on Islamic terrorists was presumed to be a forever entitlement to the Islamic terrorist welfare scammers / ungrateful welfare prostitutes.


Video at the link:

"Palestinian Historian Salman Abu Sitta: American Desire to Improve Palestinians' Economic Situation Is Like Auschwitz Guards Promising Two Meals A Day Instead of One"

Palestinian Historian Salman Abu Sitta said in a May 28, 2019 interview with Al-Jazeera network (Qatar) that the Americans' desire to improve the Palestinians' economic situation is like when the Germans in Auschwitz would promise to feed their prisoners two meals a day instead of one. He said that the Americans want to keep the Palestinians enslaved and hungry and without a homeland or an identity. Abu Sitta said that even the fact that such a thing is being proposed is humiliating to every Arab, every Palestinian, and every free person, and that it does not make sense for Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan to remain disconnected from Egypt. He added that the Palestinians' enemies must be dreaming because they will not succeed "under any circumstances."









No matter how much welfare money you throw at these people itā€™s never enough and they come back like underpaid prostitutes looking for more.
He must be talking about "the deal of the century" where Trump wants to pay the Palestinians to give up their rights.

Yes, that does seem to be what this new deal is about. But the Palestinians have rejected very generous deals in the past by Barak and Olmert, where Abbas wrote details of the deals on paper napkins (showing how seriously he takes or considers them), and responded with terror instead. So politicians like Sharon and Bibi get elected instead, and the cycle keeps repeating itself. So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept. But the only deal Palestinians will accept is Israel closing down its own country--like that will ever happen. This is the Palestinian mentality and they are only shooting themselves in the foot, because time is not on their side.
So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept.
Every deal offered so far was for the Palestinians to surrender and give up their rights. That is what Israel calls a great offer.

Have you never heard of compromise? The deals will keep on getting less and less sweeter. BDS will not do a thing, and time is not on your side, like I said before. But you can always keep on posting here, which will not help your cause one bit.
The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

Yes, I think it's true that at this point, Israel isn't willing to give up much. After they gave up Southern Lebanon, Gaza and parts of the West Bank, and got suicide bombings and rockets in return, Israelis became hardened and elected Bibi. Gaza had beautiful greenhouses and synagogues which were destroyed, and 9000 Jews were uprooted from their homes. Gaza could've become the Singapore of the Middle East. Under Rabin, Peres, Barak and Olmert, Israel was willing to give up its Jewish heartland--Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Bethel, and Shechem, all of which are located in Judea and Samaria. But now we have passed that point. The Palestinians have only themselves to blame.
 
He must be talking about "the deal of the century" where Trump wants to pay the Palestinians to give up their rights.

Yes, that does seem to be what this new deal is about. But the Palestinians have rejected very generous deals in the past by Barak and Olmert, where Abbas wrote details of the deals on paper napkins (showing how seriously he takes or considers them), and responded with terror instead. So politicians like Sharon and Bibi get elected instead, and the cycle keeps repeating itself. So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept. But the only deal Palestinians will accept is Israel closing down its own country--like that will ever happen. This is the Palestinian mentality and they are only shooting themselves in the foot, because time is not on their side.
So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept.
Every deal offered so far was for the Palestinians to surrender and give up their rights. That is what Israel calls a great offer.

Have you never heard of compromise? The deals will keep on getting less and less sweeter. BDS will not do a thing, and time is not on your side, like I said before. But you can always keep on posting here, which will not help your cause one bit.
The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

Yes, I think it's true that at this point, Israel isn't willing to give up much. After they gave up Southern Lebanon, Gaza and parts of the West Bank, and got suicide bombings and rockets in return, Israelis became hardened and elected Bibi. Gaza had beautiful greenhouses and synagogues which were destroyed, and 9000 Jews were uprooted from their homes. Gaza could've become the Singapore of the Middle East. Under Rabin, Peres, Barak and Olmert, Israel was willing to give up its Jewish heartland--Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Bethel, and Shechem, all of which are located in Judea and Samaria. But now we have passed that point. The Palestinians have only themselves to blame.
Israel "gave up" what was not theirs.

How nice.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
āœā†’ P F Tinmore, Hollie, , et al,

Here again, is misinformation.

We already know that you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.
(COMMENT)

That was never said... NOT AT ALL!

While the Arab Palestinians are (arguably) fighting against an alien occupation, BUT NOT a racist rƩgimes (A/RES/3379) in the exercise of their right of self-determination, they can still be prosecuted under Article 68. And they have no rights warranted under the Protocols.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Yes, that does seem to be what this new deal is about. But the Palestinians have rejected very generous deals in the past by Barak and Olmert, where Abbas wrote details of the deals on paper napkins (showing how seriously he takes or considers them), and responded with terror instead. So politicians like Sharon and Bibi get elected instead, and the cycle keeps repeating itself. So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept. But the only deal Palestinians will accept is Israel closing down its own country--like that will ever happen. This is the Palestinian mentality and they are only shooting themselves in the foot, because time is not on their side.
So now Jared came up with this economic-only and non-political deal, because they are breaking their heads trying to come up with a deal the Palestinians might accept.
Every deal offered so far was for the Palestinians to surrender and give up their rights. That is what Israel calls a great offer.

Have you never heard of compromise? The deals will keep on getting less and less sweeter. BDS will not do a thing, and time is not on your side, like I said before. But you can always keep on posting here, which will not help your cause one bit.
The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

Yes, I think it's true that at this point, Israel isn't willing to give up much. After they gave up Southern Lebanon, Gaza and parts of the West Bank, and got suicide bombings and rockets in return, Israelis became hardened and elected Bibi. Gaza had beautiful greenhouses and synagogues which were destroyed, and 9000 Jews were uprooted from their homes. Gaza could've become the Singapore of the Middle East. Under Rabin, Peres, Barak and Olmert, Israel was willing to give up its Jewish heartland--Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Bethel, and Shechem, all of which are located in Judea and Samaria. But now we have passed that point. The Palestinians have only themselves to blame.
Israel "gave up" what was not theirs.

How nice.

And yet, all these cities in the West Bank that have Hebrew names which are thousands of years old don't belong to Hebrew-speaking Israel! How nice...

Hebron means Friend. Bethlehem means House of Bread. Jericho means Moon. Bethel means House of G-d. Shechem means Shoulder. (Shechem is the only city whose name was changed by the Romans to Neapolus. The Arabs, who can't pronounce the letter P, corrupted the name to Nablus. Incidentally, the so-called Palestinians can't even pronounce the name of their own country Palestine!)
 
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The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

If you hold to the zero sum idea that it is ALL Israel or ALL Arab Palestine, then only one side will "have to give up something".

If you hold to the idea that BOTH peoples have rights to self-determination, then no one is "giving up" anything. Each is gaining self-determination and sovereignty.

Its all in how you look at things.
 
The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

If you hold to the zero sum idea that it is ALL Israel or ALL Arab Palestine, then only one side will "have to give up something".

If you hold to the idea that BOTH peoples have rights to self-determination, then no one is "giving up" anything. Each is gaining self-determination and sovereignty.

Its all in how you look at things.

And that's the problem right there. Tinmore believes it is all Arab Palestine and rylah believes it is all Eretz Yisrael, and neither is willing to budge.
 
And that's the problem right there. Tinmore believes it is all Arab Palestine and rylah believes it is all Eretz Yisrael, and neither is willing to budge.

Exactly.

Personally, I think that the zero sum game that the Arab Palestinians are trying to play (unsuccessfully) more and more pushes Israel into that same zero sum game. I think many Israelis are more and more thinking, there is no point in giving up their historical home.
 
There is some world class sucking-up to the Shia Ayatollahā€™s going on here.



Hamas leader thanks Iran for long-range rockets, threatens Tel Aviv

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-thanks-iran-for-long-range-rockets-threatens-tel-aviv/

Yahya Sinwar says that without capabilities provided by Tehran, his terror group would not have been able to hit Beersheba as it did in last round of fighting
30 May 2019, 10:06 pm 6

  • Hamas' leader in the Gaza Strip Yahya Sinwar speaks during a press conference for Quds (Jerusalem) day in Gaza City on 30 May 2019. (Photo by MOHAMMED ABED / AFP)
    Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar on Thursday thanked Iran for providing his terror group the rockets it used to strike deep into Israel and warned the Jewish state that Tel Aviv would be struck again in response to any offensive against the Gaza Strip.

    ā€œIran provided us with rockets, and we surprised the world when our resistance targeted Beersheba,ā€ Sinwar said in a live TV address, referring to the weekend of violence at the beginning of the month, during which Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired nearly 700 rockets at Israel.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
āœā†’ P F Tinmore, Hollie, , et al,

Here again, is misinformation.

We already know that you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.
(COMMENT)

That was never said... NOT AT ALL!

While the Arab Palestinians are (arguably) fighting against an alien occupation, BUT NOT a racist rƩgimes (A/RES/3379) in the exercise of their right of self-determination, they can still be prosecuted under Article 68. And they have no rights warranted under the Protocols.

Most Respectfully,
R
Article 68 is domestic law when under proper occupation. Israel is still in the invasion stage. Military is not allowed.
 
The Palestinians have given up a lot. Israel has given up nothing.

If you hold to the zero sum idea that it is ALL Israel or ALL Arab Palestine, then only one side will "have to give up something".

If you hold to the idea that BOTH peoples have rights to self-determination, then no one is "giving up" anything. Each is gaining self-determination and sovereignty.

Its all in how you look at things.

And that's the problem right there. Tinmore believes it is all Arab Palestine and rylah believes it is all Eretz Yisrael, and neither is willing to budge.
Read the 1949 UN Armistice Agreements.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
āœā†’ P F Tinmore, Hollie, , et al,

Here again, is misinformation.

We already know that you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.
(COMMENT)

That was never said... NOT AT ALL!

While the Arab Palestinians are (arguably) fighting against an alien occupation, BUT NOT a racist rƩgimes (A/RES/3379) in the exercise of their right of self-determination, they can still be prosecuted under Article 68. And they have no rights warranted under the Protocols.

Most Respectfully,
R
Article 68 is domestic law when under proper occupation. Israel is still in the invasion stage. Military is not allowed.
What invasive stage?

Link?
 
There is some world class sucking-up to the Shia Ayatollahā€™s going on here.



Hamas leader thanks Iran for long-range rockets, threatens Tel Aviv

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-thanks-iran-for-long-range-rockets-threatens-tel-aviv/

Yahya Sinwar says that without capabilities provided by Tehran, his terror group would not have been able to hit Beersheba as it did in last round of fighting
30 May 2019, 10:06 pm 6

  • Hamas' leader in the Gaza Strip Yahya Sinwar speaks during a press conference for Quds (Jerusalem) day in Gaza City on 30 May 2019. (Photo by MOHAMMED ABED / AFP)
    Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar on Thursday thanked Iran for providing his terror group the rockets it used to strike deep into Israel and warned the Jewish state that Tel Aviv would be struck again in response to any offensive against the Gaza Strip.

    ā€œIran provided us with rockets, and we surprised the world when our resistance targeted Beersheba,ā€ Sinwar said in a live TV address, referring to the weekend of violence at the beginning of the month, during which Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired nearly 700 rockets at Israel.
OK, so?
 
There is some world class sucking-up to the Shia Ayatollahā€™s going on here.



Hamas leader thanks Iran for long-range rockets, threatens Tel Aviv

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-thanks-iran-for-long-range-rockets-threatens-tel-aviv/

Yahya Sinwar says that without capabilities provided by Tehran, his terror group would not have been able to hit Beersheba as it did in last round of fighting
30 May 2019, 10:06 pm 6

  • Hamas' leader in the Gaza Strip Yahya Sinwar speaks during a press conference for Quds (Jerusalem) day in Gaza City on 30 May 2019. (Photo by MOHAMMED ABED / AFP)
    Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar on Thursday thanked Iran for providing his terror group the rockets it used to strike deep into Israel and warned the Jewish state that Tel Aviv would be struck again in response to any offensive against the Gaza Strip.

    ā€œIran provided us with rockets, and we surprised the world when our resistance targeted Beersheba,ā€ Sinwar said in a live TV address, referring to the weekend of violence at the beginning of the month, during which Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired nearly 700 rockets at Israel.
OK, so?

Deflection.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
āœā†’ P F Tinmore, Hollie, , et al,

Here again, is misinformation.

We already know that you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.
(COMMENT)

That was never said... NOT AT ALL!

While the Arab Palestinians are (arguably) fighting against an alien occupation, BUT NOT a racist rƩgimes (A/RES/3379) in the exercise of their right of self-determination, they can still be prosecuted under Article 68. And they have no rights warranted under the Protocols.

Most Respectfully,
R
Article 68 is domestic law when under proper occupation. Israel is still in the invasion stage. Military is not allowed.
What invasive stage?

Link?
You need to read up on the rules of occupation.
 
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
āœā†’ P F Tinmore, Hollie, , et al,

Here again, is misinformation.

We already know that you do not believe that the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.
(COMMENT)

That was never said... NOT AT ALL!

While the Arab Palestinians are (arguably) fighting against an alien occupation, BUT NOT a racist rƩgimes (A/RES/3379) in the exercise of their right of self-determination, they can still be prosecuted under Article 68. And they have no rights warranted under the Protocols.

Most Respectfully,
R
Article 68 is domestic law when under proper occupation. Israel is still in the invasion stage. Military is not allowed.
What invasive stage?

Link?
You need to read up on the rules of occupation.

What rules?

You need to identify some ā€œoccupationā€ you rattle on about but fail to identify.
 
Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar gesture to supporters during a rally marking the 30th anniversary of Hamasā€™ founding, in Gaza City Dec. 14, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Mohammed Salem.

The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip publicly admitted on Thursday that the terrorist group was getting military and financial backing from Iran.

ā€œWe have developed our capabilities,ā€ the Israeli news site Makoquoted Yahya Sinwar saying at a Hamas rally in Gaza, ā€œand we have received financial and military support from Iran.ā€

ā€œWe will only continue to improve our capabilities,ā€ he pledged, and admitted, ā€œIf Iran didnā€™t support us in recent years, we wouldnā€™t have achieved what we achieved.ā€

Sinwar stated that the Grad rockets fired at Israel during the latest round of fighting in early May were of ā€œIranian manufacture.ā€

The terrorist leader also slammed US President Donald Trumpā€™s yet-to-be-unveiled Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, claiming, ā€œTrump wants to sell Jerusalem to the Zionists without paying a price.ā€

ā€œI call on the leaders of the Arab states ā€” if you want to keep your seats, you have no choice but to choose our option, the option of the liberation of Palestine,ā€ Sinwar added.


Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support
 
More of the desperation that is gripping the Arabs-Moslems.



PA cartoon: Buying Israeli foods
arms Israeli soldiers


PA cartoon: Buying Israeli foods arms Israeli soldiers - PMW Bulletins

By Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
bds1.jpg

A poster and two cartoons call on Palestinians to boycott Israeli food products that are available in Palestinian stores.

Instead of the PA encouraging normal relations between Palestinians and Israelis, the PA does not hesitate to call on Palestinian to bring hardship upon themselves as part of the PA's anti-Israel hate campaigns. Recently, Palestinian Media Watch reported that the PA stopped permitting Palestinians to use Israeli hospitals for treatment the PA hospitals cannot supply, even though they are only a short drive away, and instead is forcing sick Palestinians to travel to Egypt and Jordan for hospitalization. Calling on Palestinians to adjust their normal food purchases because of the PA's political agenda is another example of the PA demanding hardship of their own population for the PA's political agenda.
 
Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar gesture to supporters during a rally marking the 30th anniversary of Hamasā€™ founding, in Gaza City Dec. 14, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Mohammed Salem.

The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip publicly admitted on Thursday that the terrorist group was getting military and financial backing from Iran.

ā€œWe have developed our capabilities,ā€ the Israeli news site Makoquoted Yahya Sinwar saying at a Hamas rally in Gaza, ā€œand we have received financial and military support from Iran.ā€

ā€œWe will only continue to improve our capabilities,ā€ he pledged, and admitted, ā€œIf Iran didnā€™t support us in recent years, we wouldnā€™t have achieved what we achieved.ā€

Sinwar stated that the Grad rockets fired at Israel during the latest round of fighting in early May were of ā€œIranian manufacture.ā€

The terrorist leader also slammed US President Donald Trumpā€™s yet-to-be-unveiled Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, claiming, ā€œTrump wants to sell Jerusalem to the Zionists without paying a price.ā€

ā€œI call on the leaders of the Arab states ā€” if you want to keep your seats, you have no choice but to choose our option, the option of the liberation of Palestine,ā€ Sinwar added.


Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support
So? And the US gives military and financial support to Israel.

Do you have a point?
 
Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support

Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar gesture to supporters during a rally marking the 30th anniversary of Hamasā€™ founding, in Gaza City Dec. 14, 2017. Photo: Reuters / Mohammed Salem.

The leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip publicly admitted on Thursday that the terrorist group was getting military and financial backing from Iran.

ā€œWe have developed our capabilities,ā€ the Israeli news site Makoquoted Yahya Sinwar saying at a Hamas rally in Gaza, ā€œand we have received financial and military support from Iran.ā€

ā€œWe will only continue to improve our capabilities,ā€ he pledged, and admitted, ā€œIf Iran didnā€™t support us in recent years, we wouldnā€™t have achieved what we achieved.ā€

Sinwar stated that the Grad rockets fired at Israel during the latest round of fighting in early May were of ā€œIranian manufacture.ā€

The terrorist leader also slammed US President Donald Trumpā€™s yet-to-be-unveiled Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, claiming, ā€œTrump wants to sell Jerusalem to the Zionists without paying a price.ā€

ā€œI call on the leaders of the Arab states ā€” if you want to keep your seats, you have no choice but to choose our option, the option of the liberation of Palestine,ā€ Sinwar added.


Hamas Leader Admits Group Receiving Iranian Military and Financial Support
So? And the US gives military and financial support to Israel.

Do you have a point?

Shia Crescent.

Look it up.
 
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