Covid-Capitalism Fails Most Basic Test of National Legitimacy

[Mac-7]

Why is the Trump Junta weakening worker protections during a health care crisis?

The Trump administration has weakened crucial worker protections needed to combat the coronavirus: Agencies tasked with protecting workers have put them in danger

• "The Department of Labor (DOL) issued a temporary rule that will exempt 96% of applicable firms from providing paid sick and paid family and medical leave to their staff. It could also exempt 9 million health care workers and 4.4 million first responders from receiving paid leave.
• DOL issued guidance that narrows the eligibility of workers to receive Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA). For example, gig workers must be “forced to suspend operations” by a government quarantine in order to receive PUA benefits, rather than voluntarily quarantining themselves.
• The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) issued guidance that will jeopardize the health and safety of workers. The CDC now allows essential workers to continue to work even if they may have been exposed to the coronavirus—as long as they appear to be asymptomatic and the employer implements additional precautions."

The answer to your complaints is to reopen the economy and send people back to work

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wait … posting Monthly Review's tagline directly from their website is an ad hom? Does it never occur to you why most Americans do not embrace socialism nor trust socialists?

The post you responded to contained the claim "covid-19 has laid bare a fundamental truth: that capitalist healthcare is a contradiction in terms, since capital like the killer virus care for nothing but reproducing itself."

Your response ignored that content and resorted to an ad hominem attack on its source.

Your response ignored that content and resorted to an ad hominem attack on its source.

What'd he do, post a Nazi cartoon?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Private capitalist companies do not decide how much government should stockpile for emergencies

The profit motive determines how many mask, swabs, and ventilators are produced by private capitalists which means there will always be a shortage in times of crisis.

You have no clue how the economy works in a capitalist system

When it comes to George, you can stop with "You have no clue....."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wow....as the socialists in China and Italy fail to actually take care of their people, and the Capitalists in America step up to increase production of needed supplies, while starting out with more hospital beds than the other countries around the world...........you post that silly crap?

Why have heroic US capitalists provided testing for less than one percent of their population? See if you can explain that without using the phrase "profit motive."

"From failing to develop a vaccine, to evicting the jobless and cutting off their health care, to needlessly subjecting workers and the public to infection: capitalism will be responsible for millions of coronavirus-related deaths."

How Capitalism Kills During a Pandemic

Why have heroic US capitalists provided testing for less than one percent of their population?

What percent has Venezuela tested?

"From failing to develop a vaccine,

Where is the Cuban vaccine?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You appear to miss the cooperative aspects required when human beings attempt to survive in hunter gatherer tribes. How successful would any rugged individual "good caveman hunter" be when attempting to slay a Woolly Mammoth without support? Probably about as successful as one individual hunter trying to hoard the surplus meat obtained from the hunt.

Oh, LORD. You are just like all the other commies. You take statements as literally as possible so you can dismiss the otherwise spot-on point. You also ignore the FAMILY aspect of cooperative human existence that cannot be replicated via government force. but let's put that aside for now.

Do you think that one group of successful hunters of a Wolly Mammoth owes some of the meat to another, separate group of hunters who stayed at home and didn't put forth any effort? How is that scenario any different? One group earned their food, and the other group is demanding a share. How would the lazy group go about obtaining their share?

WAR.

Hell, look at the American Natives for a PERFECT example of humanity. They existed in small, familial tribes and fought each other like packs of wolves for 10,000 years--over FOOD.

Probably about as successful as one individual hunter trying to hoard the surplus meat obtained from the hunt.

By "successful" here, you mean that the one hunter would not be able to stop the horde of thieves who wanted his food for themselves?

Yes. That is Marxism in a nutshell. Thank you for that perfect illustration.

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[georgephillip]

The answer to your complaints is to reopen the economy and send people back to work

If you open the economy without knowing how many Americans are infested, you risk crashing the economy as a consequence of overwhelming the medical infrastructure. Until Trump produces enough tests nationwide, opening the economy is a loser.

Donald Trump made $39 million running failed casino company

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The answer to your complaints is to reopen the economy and send people back to work

If you open the economy without knowing how many Americans are infested, you risk crashing the economy as a consequence of overwhelming the medical infrastructure. Until Trump produces enough tests nationwide, opening the economy is a loser.

Donald Trump made $39 million running failed casino company

So...wreck the economy....because if you don't....you'll......wreck the economy???

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[Sun Devil 92]

A lockdown is anything but capitalist but will serve a greater good for us all.

Was it imposed two months too late?

Nope...

It should never have been imposed.

Precautions.....yes.

Lockdown....no.

Which is why so many places are not really locking down.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The answer to your complaints is to reopen the economy and send people back to work

If you open the economy without knowing how many Americans are infested, you risk crashing the economy as a consequence of overwhelming the medical infrastructure. Until Trump produces enough tests nationwide, opening the economy is a loser.

Donald Trump made $39 million running failed casino company

How much is enough.

 

[georgephillip]

What'd he do, post a Nazi cartoon?

Are you projecting?

German magazine depicts Trump giving Nazi salute

 

[Sun Devil 92]

BTW:

TDS thread 1,401

You started off the new century.

 

[LuckyDuck]

MR Online | Resistance growing to covid-capitalism

"The superpower that has killed millions in its quest for global supremacy has utterly failed the most basic test of legitimacy at home: the ability to protect its own population.

"Covid-19 has laid bare a fundamental truth: that capitalist healthcare is a contradiction in terms, since capital–like the killer virus–cares for nothing but reproducing itself.

"The U.S. 'public' health sector is revealed as a hollowed-out shell, crippled and shrunken by decades of unrelenting privatization at the hands of the oligarch-serving political duopoly.

"In effect, the Lords of Capital have been devouring the nation’s protective membrane, leaving the population defenseless against, not only microbes, but every disease of the poor–plus opiates and the lethal social pathologies that spawn spectacular and uniquely American mass shootings at schools, churches and shopping malls, and the daily slaughter of Black and brown youth on the streets."

Capitalism's leaders are currently rushing into policy failures because of their ideological blinders. Over the past decades capitalism has built up vulnerabilities to another epic crash that any number of triggers could unleash.

Coronavirus: A visual guide to the economic impact

And yet, Comrade, you and your Commie friends continue to live here, rather than move to your Communist Eden of China, Cuba, Vietnam or, North Korea, where absolutely "everyone" has to march to the beat of the same order, or face imprisonment or death.

 

[georgephillip]

How much is enough.

How much testing is enough?

The total could be in the billions.

I think we have to consider percentage of population to know when adequate testing has been achieved.

So far the US has tested less than one percent of its total population.

The US economy can't reopen without widespread coronavirus testing. Getting there will take a lot of work and money

"Some experts say America needs to perform 20 million to 30 million tests a day to begin getting the economy back to normal."

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And yet, Comrade, you and your Commie friends continue to live here, rather than move to your Communist Eden of China, Cuba, Vietnam or, North Korea, where absolutely "everyone" has to march to the beat of the same order, or face imprisonment or death.

Oh, but NO. The communism they bring here won't be like EVERY SINGLE OTHER COMMIE STATE EVER TO HAVE EXISTED. No. THIS time, they will do it right.


Sing it for them, Bryan:

This Time - Bryan Adams

This time communism will work
No way it's gonna be the same
This time won't be complete disaster
And we...WILL HAVE UTOPIA

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

How much is enough.

How much testing is enough?

The total could be in the billions.

I think we have to consider percentage of population to know when adequate testing has been achieved.

So far the US has tested less than one percent of its total population.

The US economy can't reopen without widespread coronavirus testing. Getting there will take a lot of work and money

"Some experts say America needs to perform 20 million to 30 million tests a day to begin getting the economy back to normal."

We have over 600,000 confirmed cases. How can we NOT have tested over 1%? That is mathematically impossible.

Unless people are making up fake numbers in an effort to escalate the panic so they can win in November (they are).

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[Toddsterpatriot]

The answer to your complaints is to reopen the economy and send people back to work

If you open the economy without knowing how many Americans are infested, you risk crashing the economy as a consequence of overwhelming the medical infrastructure. Until Trump produces enough tests nationwide, opening the economy is a loser.

Donald Trump made $39 million running failed casino company

So...wreck the economy....because if you don't....you'll......wreck the economy???



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Forget it, he's rolling.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What'd he do, post a Nazi cartoon?

Are you projecting?

German magazine depicts Trump giving Nazi salute

Pointing out your hypocrisy isn't projecting.

 

[georgephillip]

And yet, Comrade, you and your Commie friends continue to live here, rather than move to your Communist Eden of China, Cuba, Vietnam or, North Korea, where absolutely "everyone" has to march to the beat of the same order, or face imprisonment or death.

China and Cuba do a better job of testing than MAGA land:

The US economy can't reopen without widespread coronavirus testing. Getting there will take a lot of work and money

"There are only about 120,000 samples or so being tested each day for the coronavirus in the United States, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Experts say that millions of people will have to be tested each day, even as many as 20 million to 30 million people, before the nation can return to a semblance of economic normality."

Maybe you would be happier in Russia?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

China and Cuba do a better job of testing than MAGA land:

They do things better in China and Cuba. You should live there. Not here.


We'll help you pack.
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[Correll]

What'd he do, post a Nazi cartoon?

Are you projecting?

German magazine depicts Trump giving Nazi salute

Only an fucktard would think that made any type of sense.