Democrats: No bluff, Obama will go it alone on immigration

[Sallow]

So far not one single liberal on this forum who SPEWSSSSS all the day long about being for children and women.. for MINORITIES.. but NOT will stand up and personally get involved to help this caged children THEIR POLICIES brought in to abuse...

Stand up and what?

Send them back to their home countries to get killed by American made weapons, carried by drug gangs that sell their drugs to Americans?

Nope.

You got that right.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS.. Children crying out in these pictures to help them with tears running down their eyes.. you fucking foolish PIGS and your socialist agenda make me sick to my stomach-

Can I get a side-order of fries with the Drama?

You're truly a despicable human being.. Children are crying out for help even drawing pictures and you sit in this thread making racist remarks and couldn't care less.. YOU are the posterboy of true SOCIALISM.. The kind of disregard for humanity that allows for the world's worst monsters to control people.

Socialism cares about people, Capitalism works them to death.

 

[Unkotare]

You making things up in your tiny mind again I see...

If you're unhappy with what your own words reveal about you, maybe you should choose them more carefully instead of attempting to impress yourself, buffoon.

My words didn't say that...

They very obviously did. Maybe if you took a remedial English course you could learn to express yourself more clearly and carefully.

















Or, you could just stop being a douchebag.

 

[Sallow]

""If they don't bring any bill to the floor, the president has no choice — on a humanitarian basis and on a policy basis — to act where he can on his own," Schumer added."

Read more: Democrats: No bluff, Obama will go it alone on immigration | TheHill

Yeppers. When you have no willing partner, you sometimes have to dance alone...

Not quite accurate. Obama has willing partners, however they do not wish to participate in the obscene dance he wishes to perform. Every day, we get to see the results of left wing imigration policies, and it is not a pretty picture.

We desperately need some adult leadership while we still have something worth leading.

Yes. It would be nice to clear out the never compromise my way or highway types from congress.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

""If they don't bring any bill to the floor, the president has no choice — on a humanitarian basis and on a policy basis — to act where he can on his own," Schumer added."

Read more: Democrats: No bluff, Obama will go it alone on immigration | TheHill

Yeppers. When you have no willing partner, you sometimes have to dance alone...

Not quite accurate. Obama has willing partners, however they do not wish to participate in the obscene dance he wishes to perform. Every day, we get to see the results of left wing imigration policies, and it is not a pretty picture.

We desperately need some adult leadership while we still have something worth leading.

The people who came here when the Bush family and Reagan were in power are Obama's fault as well? Remarkable.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Just started a new thread.. CBS reporting a Mexican Military Chopper crossed over the US military border and open fired on American Immigration officers

Report: Mexican Military Chopper Crosses Into US, Shoots At Border Agents « CBS Las Vegas

 

[Sallow]

Can I get a side-order of fries with the Drama?

You're truly a despicable human being.. Children are crying out for help even drawing pictures and you sit in this thread making racist remarks and couldn't care less.. YOU are the posterboy of true SOCIALISM.. The kind of disregard for humanity that allows for the world's worst monsters to control people.

Socialism cares about people, Capitalism works them to death.

Depends on what type of socialism or capitalism you are talking about.

In my humble opinion? What works best is a blend of both.

 

[Unkotare]

Throughout history, many dictators have declared the urgent need to invoke "emergency powers" as a pretext for usurping power to which they were not entitled by law nor granted by the people. Very few 'leaders' who get a taste for such power willingly give it back - ever.

Sound familiar?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You're truly a despicable human being.. Children are crying out for help even drawing pictures and you sit in this thread making racist remarks and couldn't care less.. YOU are the posterboy of true SOCIALISM.. The kind of disregard for humanity that allows for the world's worst monsters to control people.

Socialism cares about people, Capitalism works them to death.

Depends on what type of socialism or capitalism you are talking about.

In my humble opinion? What works best is a blend of both.

I agree. A Mixed economy is best but if you want to find a destroyer of hearts and minds, capitalism is your cup of tea, which you can produce but can't afford to drink.

 

[Erand7899]

It has nothing to do with Obama. The role and powers of the Executive Branch were never clearly stated, on purpose. Even the Founders weren't sure what the hell he might actually need to do, so they left it as an open issue.

Except, idiot, that power is not granted to the executive... period... he does not get to go it alone just because others do not do what he wants... if a power is NOT granted, it does not mean that it is just able to be taken by this branch, or any other branch of government

What power are you speaking of? Seems as though Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Executive Branch are very often trying to work that out amongst themselves, exactly as they Founders expected, although the SC is much more powerful then they would have expected it to be.

Now what is this Power that concerns you?

The powers of the President are clearly delineated in the United States Constitution, and the President has no other legal powers beyond those granted him by legislative action.


Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

 

[Sallow]

Except, idiot, that power is not granted to the executive... period... he does not get to go it alone just because others do not do what he wants... if a power is NOT granted, it does not mean that it is just able to be taken by this branch, or any other branch of government

What power are you speaking of? Seems as though Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Executive Branch are very often trying to work that out amongst themselves, exactly as they Founders expected, although the SC is much more powerful then they would have expected it to be.

Now what is this Power that concerns you?

The powers of the President are clearly delineated in the United States Constitution, and the President has no other legal powers beyond those granted him by legislative action.


Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Didn't read the whole thing, did ya?

 

[rightwinger]

Obama goes it alone in implementing new immigration policies
Republicans fight tooth and nail to block even the most reasonable immigration policy


Republicans are ensuring they will not win the White House for a generation

 

[Erand7899]

Oh it's anything but settled. If it was we wouldn't be having this little war.

Just because you have a law that says no nudity doesn't mean the local beach isn't clothing optional, if the chief of police looks the other way or is too busy to bother. If we were enforcing the laws on the books there would be no illegals here. No administrator, regardless of political party, has bothered with that minor detail for decades. Now, why is that?

Just because your boy King doesn't like a law- doesn't mean he gets to "go it alone" and create a new one.. and allow me to just let you know he will not be allowed to do it either.. Just like yesterday, he will be biatch slapped back in to place.. If I were an elected official, I would vote to impeach the impostor and put his ass in prison where he belongs.

He hasn't made any laws.

He's issued Executive orders.

Take a look at the Constitution.

He can basically do that.

Executive orders apply only to the executive branch, and have no further reach. Whether he issues an executive order directing his employees to not enforce the law, or does it under the table, he is still violating his oath of office, and the requirement in the constitution that he take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

However, that type of malfeasance in office only seems to bother Liberal/socialists when they disagree with the illegal action taken.

 

[Sallow]

Just because your boy King doesn't like a law- doesn't mean he gets to "go it alone" and create a new one.. and allow me to just let you know he will not be allowed to do it either.. Just like yesterday, he will be biatch slapped back in to place.. If I were an elected official, I would vote to impeach the impostor and put his ass in prison where he belongs.

He hasn't made any laws.

He's issued Executive orders.

Take a look at the Constitution.

He can basically do that.

Executive orders apply only to the executive branch, and have no further reach. Whether he issues an executive order directing his employees to not enforce the law, or does it under the table, he is still violating his oath of office, and the requirement in the constitution that he take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

However, that type of malfeasance in office only seems to bother Liberal/socialists when they disagree with the illegal action taken.

and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States

You miss that or what?

 

[Erand7899]

What power are you speaking of? Seems as though Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Executive Branch are very often trying to work that out amongst themselves, exactly as they Founders expected, although the SC is much more powerful then they would have expected it to be.

Now what is this Power that concerns you?

The powers of the President are clearly delineated in the United States Constitution, and the President has no other legal powers beyond those granted him by legislative action.


Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Didn't read the whole thing, did ya?

I have read it many times, I actually understand what it says, and there are no other powers granted to the President by the Constitution. Now, why don't you put your ass where your mouth is, and show these vast powers you claim the President has?

 

[Erand7899]

He hasn't made any laws.

He's issued Executive orders.

Take a look at the Constitution.

He can basically do that.

Executive orders apply only to the executive branch, and have no further reach. Whether he issues an executive order directing his employees to not enforce the law, or does it under the table, he is still violating his oath of office, and the requirement in the constitution that he take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

However, that type of malfeasance in office only seems to bother Liberal/socialists when they disagree with the illegal action taken.

and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States

You miss that or what?

No, I didn't miss that, I just didn't highlight it. Does that power give you a thrill up your leg, or did you just notice that it exists?

 

[Sallow]

The powers of the President are clearly delineated in the United States Constitution, and the President has no other legal powers beyond those granted him by legislative action.


Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Didn't read the whole thing, did ya?

I have read it many times, I actually understand what it says, and there are no other powers granted to the President by the Constitution. Now, why don't you put your ass where your mouth is, and show these vast powers you claim the President has?

What is it with you guys and asses?

Specifically guy's asses?

 

[Erand7899]

""If they don't bring any bill to the floor, the president has no choice — on a humanitarian basis and on a policy basis — to act where he can on his own," Schumer added."

Read more: Democrats: No bluff, Obama will go it alone on immigration | TheHill

Yeppers. When you have no willing partner, you sometimes have to dance alone...

Not quite accurate. Obama has willing partners, however they do not wish to participate in the obscene dance he wishes to perform. Every day, we get to see the results of left wing imigration policies, and it is not a pretty picture.

We desperately need some adult leadership while we still have something worth leading.

Yes. It would be nice to clear out the never compromise my way or highway types from congress.

Compromise is a two way street. You know that, but it doesn't suit your argument, so you just ignore it. Those evil Republicans won't let Obama have his own way, and that brings tears to your eyes.

 

[Sallow]

Executive orders apply only to the executive branch, and have no further reach. Whether he issues an executive order directing his employees to not enforce the law, or does it under the table, he is still violating his oath of office, and the requirement in the constitution that he take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

However, that type of malfeasance in office only seems to bother Liberal/socialists when they disagree with the illegal action taken.

and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States

You miss that or what?

No, I didn't miss that, I just didn't highlight it. Does that power give you a thrill up your leg, or did you just notice that it exists?

Actually..I'm not the one who missed it.

You did.

 

[Erand7899]

Can I get a side-order of fries with the Drama?

You're truly a despicable human being.. Children are crying out for help even drawing pictures and you sit in this thread making racist remarks and couldn't care less.. YOU are the posterboy of true SOCIALISM.. The kind of disregard for humanity that allows for the world's worst monsters to control people.

Socialism cares about people, Capitalism works them to death.

You really are dumber than a box of rocks. A dumbass with an aversion to hard work? Yes, you fit the Socialist ideologue.