Ethics, Religion question.

[Gracie]

And a mini rant:

I just called the docs office and left a message to her "assistant". Problem nowadays is, all these warnings on drugs and to "contact your doctor immediately" doesn't fly any more. They never answer their own phones or it is a receptionist that never checks incoming messages and by the time the doc gets the message, you're dead. Or in the hospital.

And the farming out docs do now. That drives me NUTS. There is no more general practicioners. Oh no. Got a sinus pain, you must get a "referral" to go to the nose specialist. Got the runs? Get a referral to the gastroenterologist. Headache? Referral to hospital for MRI or whatever. The Doc is a go between. The hub. So by the time you see the guy to fix whatever is wrong, you just spent 2 weeks waiting and driving to 5 other doctors.

That is the rant ^. Here is the question:

If someone chooses to STOP all meds...ALL meds, and let nature takes it's course naturally...is that considered suicide? Or just being burned out poisoning one's body to just stay alive? And if so...is that "bad" with God? To just let your body do what it would normally do way back when, when no drugs were available except home remedies that either worked....or didn't work?

I am seriously considering stopping all my meds. Ever single one of them.

 

[speck]

You could call a pharmacy or the hospital. Might want to look for another Doctor too.

 

[Immanuel]

Wouldn't that be assuming that the doctor knows what he/she is doing and what is best? Doctors are not gods, sometimes it seems it might just be best to let nature take its course.

Immie

 

[AVG-JOE]

And a mini rant:

I just called the docs office and left a message to her "assistant". Problem nowadays is, all these warnings on drugs and to "contact your doctor immediately" doesn't fly any more. They never answer their own phones or it is a receptionist that never checks incoming messages and by the time the doc gets the message, you're dead. Or in the hospital.

And the farming out docs do now. That drives me NUTS. There is no more general practicioners. Oh no. Got a sinus pain, you must get a "referral" to go to the nose specialist. Got the runs? Get a referral to the gastroenterologist. Headache? Referral to hospital for MRI or whatever. The Doc is a go between. The hub. So by the time you see the guy to fix whatever is wrong, you just spent 2 weeks waiting and driving to 5 other doctors.

That is the rant ^. Here is the question:

If someone chooses to STOP all meds...ALL meds, and let nature takes it's course naturally...is that considered suicide? Or just being burned out poisoning one's body to just stay alive? And if so...is that "bad" with God? To just let your body do what it would normally do way back when, when no drugs were available except home remedies that either worked....or didn't work?

I am seriously considering stopping all my meds. Ever single one of them.

Your body / Your choice.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Get as much information as you need to make a decision, balancing comfort of the decision with how good or shitty you feel going forward.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Wouldn't that be assuming that the doctor knows what he/she is doing and what is best? Doctors are not gods, sometimes it seems it might just be best to let nature take its course.

Immie

They don't call it 'practicing' medicine because p's and m's compliment each other aesthetically.

 

[Granny]

Your pharmacist is the go to guy if you have questions about drugs. Read the prescription report that comes with your drugs and if you still have questions, see your pharmacist. They are somewhat more informed about drugs than the doctors who prescribe them. I would also ask their opinion/advice regarding the usefulness of various supplements as well. (Another good reason not to have mail order drugs. I want to be able to walk up to the pharmacy counter where they know me on a first name basis as soon as they see me.)

I would never recommend a cold turkey stop to medications because that could screw you up big time. On the other hand, there's absolutely nothing at all wrong with keeping up with various foods that are helpful and/or preventative for a whole laundry list of health issues. In concert with your medications the use of both might help you eventually drop your dosages down some. Foods, exercises, or whatever that might lower your blood pressure or be good for your heart health can't hurt.

Oh ... and if you want to ask for help from above ... that's not going to hurt you either!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And a mini rant:

I just called the docs office and left a message to her "assistant". Problem nowadays is, all these warnings on drugs and to "contact your doctor immediately" doesn't fly any more. They never answer their own phones or it is a receptionist that never checks incoming messages and by the time the doc gets the message, you're dead. Or in the hospital.

And the farming out docs do now. That drives me NUTS. There is no more general practicioners. Oh no. Got a sinus pain, you must get a "referral" to go to the nose specialist. Got the runs? Get a referral to the gastroenterologist. Headache? Referral to hospital for MRI or whatever. The Doc is a go between. The hub. So by the time you see the guy to fix whatever is wrong, you just spent 2 weeks waiting and driving to 5 other doctors.

That is the rant ^. Here is the question:

If someone chooses to STOP all meds...ALL meds, and let nature takes it's course naturally...is that considered suicide? Or just being burned out poisoning one's body to just stay alive? And if so...is that "bad" with God? To just let your body do what it would normally do way back when, when no drugs were available except home remedies that either worked....or didn't work?

I am seriously considering stopping all my meds. Ever single one of them.

Some meds must be weened off you should not just stop them. Having said that I stopped all my diabetic drugs except insulin and I take my psych meds. I did not tell the doctor.

Is it suicide? Only if you KNOW not taking them will kill you. Ohh I take nexium too for my stomach and the occasional tylenol.

 

[Gracie]

From what I have been reading, arimidex is a new-ish drug that is supposedly better than Tamoxifen.
I have 4 more years of the Tamoxifen, then I can stop...but I also read that most oncs are now recommending being on Tam for 7 to 10 years.

Anywho...if one is poor, one must stick with the poor man's doc. If I had my own insurance, then I could pick and choose who to trust my body to.

Don't mind me. I'm just grumpy. Got another chest cold and my sinuses are all screwed up and the doctor will bless me with is presence this friday.

 

[Gracie]

(One of the side effects of Tam is moodiness and depression....hence the mini rant).

 

[BreezeWood]

as long as they are healthy, the poor persons doctor is their best friend ... $$$ does matter to most everyone in medicine, from the bellhop to the Brain Surgeon - seems to be a part of the playing field.

RetiredGySgt - had some good advice ...

many in Medicine do not know themselves what is best ...



the opposite of your post, I did not know to take the medicine advised and had a stroke ... I now think of it as what my body does not produce the medicine will ... mine are simple - blood pressure and anti-cholesterol and have made up my mind to keep taking them - like Sgt's idea though I no longer check for my type 2 diabetes and just eat whatever does not have high carbohydrates - the blood prick every morning gets old and really proves very little for Type 2.

good luck ...

 

[AVG-JOE]

From what I have been reading, arimidex is a new-ish drug that is supposedly better than Tamoxifen.
I have 4 more years of the Tamoxifen, then I can stop...but I also read that most oncs are now recommending being on Tam for 7 to 10 years.

Anywho...if one is poor, one must stick with the poor man's doc. If I had my own insurance, then I could pick and choose who to trust my body to.

Don't mind me. I'm just grumpy. Got another chest cold and my sinuses are all screwed up and the doctor will bless me with is presence this friday.

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Hope you feel better soon!!