Hitler, Fascism and the right wing

[Wry Catcher]

How many of the half dozen authors cited have you read, Weasel?

Because the ones listed are about the most reknowned people working in this field, and any history course on Fascist Politics will include 2 or 3 of them.

Do you really think you can come to understand something as complex as Fascist theory by spending 5 minutes on Wikipedia?

I don't use wikipedia and never made that claim. It's another lie. Those are NOT the cites I posted.

Nor do I need an author try to massage the meaning of socialism to not mean what it means. That's an opinion, not a fact. You love opinion and ignore facts, we get it. You've made it clear that you can't accept the Nazis' own words on the matter.

And you still haven't said what it has to do with the American right wing.

Why would anyone accept the word of a Nazi, or any pol for that matter; the best advice is to ignore the lips and watch the feet (it's not what they say, it's what they do).

 

[Discombobulated]

Meanwhile these dummies still can't define right wing.

 

[g5000]

I was looking at our universities the other day, and I noticed something was missing.

"Herr Goring", I said. "We do not have enough Negroes in our universities! We must put into place an affirmative action plan to correct this terrible situation."

Heil multiculturalism!!

But I was just getting started!

"I want homosexuals in the Wehrmacht first thing in the morning!!!", I said.

Heil diversity!!!

 

[bripat9643]

You have to excuse me if I'm not impressed with your pretensions of intellectual superiority. What you have read is almost entirely left-wing propaganda. Reading bullshit doesn't enlighten much.

I cited 6 authors and 8 books earlier in the thread. Which of them were left wing?

The authors were Arendt, Kershaw, Overy, Browning, Marris and Montefiore.

I'll help you out - none of them are left-wing.

Someone earlier mentioned the anti-intellectual streak that seems to come up in threads like this, and your post smacks of it.

ROFL! I'm quite familiar with Hannah Arendt, and she is decidedly left-wing. I am not familiar with the other authors, but I'm certain your understanding of their politics is just as faulty as your view of Hannah Arendt's politics. Most historians are pinkos and commies - certainly all the ones that left-wingers like you endorse are pinkos and commies.

 

[g5000]

And that's how we know when we attack homosexuals...

...and send reporters outside our building to interview well-dressed negroes with national identity papers to prove there are no negroes who don't have national identity papers...

...and defend torture and worship the Department of Homeland Security...

...and warn that multiculturalists and their Culture Wars are destroying our way of life...

...we can't have Nazi tendencies. Because Nazis are liberals!

 

[Saigon]

Nor do I need an author try to massage the meaning of socialism to not mean what it means.

And yet you are the one trying to change the meaning that has existed in dictionaries for 60+ years, right?

It's no surprise you fight so hard to avoid reading books, is it?

 

[Discombobulated]

I was looking at our universities the other day, and I noticed something was missing.

"Herr Goring", I said. "We do not have enough Negroes in our universities! We must put into place an affirmative action plan to correct this terrible situation."

Heil multiculturalism!!

But I was just getting started!

"I want homosexuals in the Wehrmacht first thing in the morning!!!", I said.

Heil diversity!!!

Just plain fucking stupid.

 

[francoHFW]

To understand the dupes, you have to realize this "Hitler was a socialist" bs comes from a book called Liberal Fascism and Glenn Beck- who makes $70 million/year spreading all kinds of crappe to his chumps. They inhabit a bizarre alternate universe.

 

[Saigon]

ROFL! I'm quite familiar with Hannah Arendt, and she is decidedly left-wing. I am not familiar with the other authors, but I'm certain your understanding of their politics is just as faulty as your view of Hannah Arendt's politics. Most historians are pinkos and commies - certainly all the ones that left-wingers like you endorse are pinkos and commies.

And you are aware that Arendt's boyfriend worked for the Nazi Party at the time, right?

So how left wing is she, would you say?

Check out someone like Ian Kershaw. He really is the most reknowned historian in this field, and I'd be surprised if you found him to be left wing. No one else has.

 

[Iceweasel]

It doesn't matter how much actual legitimate history you cite. They can't comprehend it because it doesn't fit with their superficial definitions or half wit rhetoric.

When do you stop gazing into the mirror?

More meaningless nonsense.....big surprise.

And yet another fart. That's all you have huh?

 

[bripat9643]

Government education and government healthcare do not produce better outcomes.

Again, this is a bit off-topic, but just to answer this quickly - many EU countries do produce better learning and healthcare outcomes than the US does, when the entire population is taken into account. It's just a fact. (I might start another thread on this soon, so we can discuss this more then.)

So one government education system produces a better outcome than another government education system? That doesn't say much about how they perform against a private education system.

Furthermore, many European systems have large elements of choice. In some countries, you can send your kid to a public school or a private school. That also doesn't speak well about purely governmental systems.

 

[Iceweasel]

To understand the dupes, you have to realize this "Hitler was a socialist" bs comes from a book called Liberal Fascism and Glenn Beck- who makes $70 million/year spreading all kinds of crappe to his chumps. They inhabit a bizarre alternate universe.

Never read it, chump. Socialist means socialist in the real world. Being a national socialist doesn't mean it's not socialist. And being stuck on stupid won't make it so.

 

[Saigon]

...we have better economic mobility than you do. The American Dream is a myth. Here, it's more of a reality.

That is liberty.

And THAT is nonsense, which stems, as it must, from the Advocacy of Foreign Ideas HOSTILE to American principle. And THAT is why those who are NOT US CITIZENS should NEVER BE ALLOWED TO DECEITFULLY POSE AS US CITIZENS on internet forums, as such is a FRAUDULENT MEANS TO INFLUENCE THE IGNORANT.

He's not posing as a U.S. citizen. I have no problem with people from other countries participating in this forum. However, the fact that they are foreigners indicates a certain level of ignorance regarding this country and the principles it was founded on.

That's fair - unfortunately it is also true of Americans posting about Europe in many cases, and this topic does really highlight that.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I do not understand how people in Europe today can tolerate the level of government control that is allowed by people living there. Have they no concept of liberty?

Have you ever been to Europe? Have you ever spoken with a European? What is your concept of liberty?

Liberty is the absence of government control over your life. In other words, it's the opposite of the Democrat agenda.

Really? Only Democrats want to control the life of others? Are you that stupid (yes!) and actually believe opposing a women's right to choose, gay or lesbian marriage and making citizens who have voted for years jump through hoops, travel miles and provide not any ID, but a governmental approved ID, to vote are not impediments to one living their life? Which party might that be to put such roadblocks to individuals liberty and freedom?

The more you post, the dumber you seem to be.

 

[g5000]

To understand the dupes, you have to realize this "Hitler was a socialist" bs comes from a book called Liberal Fascism and Glenn Beck- who makes $70 million/year spreading all kinds of crappe to his chumps. They inhabit a bizarre alternate universe.

Never read it, chump. Socialist means socialist in the real world. Being a national socialist doesn't mean it's not socialist. And being stuck on stupid won't make it so.

Being socialist doesn't always mean left wing. Being stuck on stupid won't make it so.

Heil multiculturualism!

 

[Stephanie]

To understand the dupes, you have to realize this "Hitler was a socialist" bs comes from a book called Liberal Fascism and Glenn Beck- who makes $70 million/year spreading all kinds of crappe to his chumps. They inhabit a bizarre alternate universe.

I didn't know Beck was that OLD. damn he looks good for that age
you should be ashamed of yourself with the liberal bs you peddle to fool and mislead people

 

[francoHFW]

How many of the half dozen authors cited have you read, Weasel?

Because the ones listed are about the most reknowned people working in this field, and any history course on Fascist Politics will include 2 or 3 of them.

Do you really think you can come to understand something as complex as Fascist theory by spending 5 minutes on Wikipedia?

I don't use wikipedia and never made that claim. It's another lie. Those are NOT the cites I posted.

Nor do I need an author try to massage the meaning of socialism to not mean what it means. That's an opinion, not a fact. You love opinion and ignore facts, we get it. You've made it clear that you can't accept the Nazis' own words on the matter.

And you still haven't said what it has to do with the American right wing.

So you believe all RW propaganda, even the Nazis'? You're a gd idiot.

 

[g5000]

Other fun Hitler quotes:


Hitler addresses and laughs his ass off at you dumbshits who think Nazism is a leftist philosophy:

For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!

See if this sounds identical to what we hear from the right these days about Obama's long term goals:

But even more: the Jew becomes suddenly also 'liberal' and he begins to rave of the necessary 'progress' of mankind.

Thus he gradually makes himself the spokesman of a new time.

Of course, he destroys then also more and more thoroughly the foundations of a truly useful national economy.

Pretty spooky, eh?

We chose the red color of our posters after exacting and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the leftists by this,to bring them to indignation and to induce them to come to our meetings, if only to break them up, so that in this way we were at least enabled to speak to these people.

All of these are from Mein Kampf.

 

[Discombobulated]

It doesn't matter how much actual legitimate history you cite. They can't comprehend it because it doesn't fit with their superficial definitions or half wit rhetoric.

When do you stop gazing into the mirror?

More meaningless nonsense.....big surprise.

And yet another fart. That's all you have huh?

I'm sorry you're so sensitive about your complete ignorance of history. Maybe if you tried reading some books you might not have this problem all the time.

 

[francoHFW]

To understand the dupes, you have to realize this "Hitler was a socialist" bs comes from a book called Liberal Fascism and Glenn Beck- who makes $70 million/year spreading all kinds of crappe to his chumps. They inhabit a bizarre alternate universe.

I didn't know Beck was that OLD. damn he looks good for that age
you should be ashamed of yourself with the liberal bs you peddle to fool and mislead people

Nobody EVER said Hitler was a socialist until about 10 years ago, dingbat. It's a horrible RW joke. like you and Weasel lol.