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Not to mention the illegality of Bloomberg admittedly paying people in other states to vote democrat.A lot of what has been reported is no doubt true. It doesn't mean fraud, or that it happened everywhere, but it does indicate confusion, poorly maintained voter rolls (everyone knows about those, Dr. Love), trying to organize massive mail-in campaigns on short notice, etc. They did a great job, overall, as the recounts show. But I'm a proponent of mail-in ballots if it leads to greater voter participation, and I'd like to see them go as smoothly and tightly as voting in person. There is room for improvement, and there is room to acknowledge that we can do better in some areas.
Mail in voting is a terrible idea because that's how Democrats draw in the politically ignorant. If a person is politically ignorant, it's almost a guaranteed Democrat vote. That's why they've been pushing it for so long.
The day President Biden outlaws fracking is the day I admit that I’m an idiot and leave the forum forevs. Ray, there are people who can help you through this difficult time. ;-)
Although I was disappointed when Attorney General Barr resigned, he never was a sycophant, and Trump gave him the right to speak his mind about being unhappy with tweets. I'm disappointed the Democrats used both him and President as a whipping boy for their irrational hatred for good Constitutional interpretation.Sure, you cead-end trumpers believe that law is to protect one side while used against the other. Just look at the DOJ under trump sycophant billy barr.We believe in equality before the law, not equality of results.Dead-end trumpers don't believe in equal, they want their votes to count as more than colored votes.How woulld making them all equal make white votes count more?You mean, how can we assure that white votes count more than colored ones.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
Not to mention the illegality of Bloomberg admittedly paying people in other states to vote democrat.A lot of what has been reported is no doubt true. It doesn't mean fraud, or that it happened everywhere, but it does indicate confusion, poorly maintained voter rolls (everyone knows about those, Dr. Love), trying to organize massive mail-in campaigns on short notice, etc. They did a great job, overall, as the recounts show. But I'm a proponent of mail-in ballots if it leads to greater voter participation, and I'd like to see them go as smoothly and tightly as voting in person. There is room for improvement, and there is room to acknowledge that we can do better in some areas.
Mail in voting is a terrible idea because that's how Democrats draw in the politically ignorant. If a person is politically ignorant, it's almost a guaranteed Democrat vote. That's why they've been pushing it for so long.
"A 1/2 cup of rice in every pot and a pair of roller skates in every garage," AOC, Biden, and Harris quoting the DNC/CCP 2020 platform.
Conservative votes should count more than dead people's votes.Although I was disappointed when Attorney General Barr resigned, he never was a sycophant, and Trump gave him the right to speak his mind about being unhappy with tweets. I'm disappointed the Democrats used both him and President as a whipping boy for their irrational hatred for good Constitutional interpretation.Sure, you cead-end trumpers believe that law is to protect one side while used against the other. Just look at the DOJ under trump sycophant billy barr.We believe in equality before the law, not equality of results.Dead-end trumpers don't believe in equal, they want their votes to count as more than colored votes.How woulld making them all equal make white votes count more?You mean, how can we assure that white votes count more than colored ones.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
One dead person's vote cancels one of the living's.Conservative votes should count more than dead people's votes.Although I was disappointed when Attorney General Barr resigned, he never was a sycophant, and Trump gave him the right to speak his mind about being unhappy with tweets. I'm disappointed the Democrats used both him and President as a whipping boy for their irrational hatred for good Constitutional interpretation.Sure, you cead-end trumpers believe that law is to protect one side while used against the other. Just look at the DOJ under trump sycophant billy barr.We believe in equality before the law, not equality of results.Dead-end trumpers don't believe in equal, they want their votes to count as more than colored votes.How woulld making them all equal make white votes count more?You mean, how can we assure that white votes count more than colored ones.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
The day President Biden outlaws fracking is the day I admit that I’m an idiot and leave the forum forevs. Ray, there are people who can help you through this difficult time. ;-)
I'll be fine. It's the rest of the country I'm worried about. The only thing that can save us is if the Republicans hold the Senate to stop some of his stupidity.
SecedeHow Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?
Briben is a national security threat plain and simple. He will upset the apple cart worse than this nation has seen since old times.I'm so sorry, beagle. To make matters worse, those in the deep state broke every law and pushed every envelope to destroy President Trump's landslide re-election.Yep, they pulled a fast one, and I must say I fell for it.What state? I think they may have pulled a fast one unless they made it crystal clear you must register for each year in the beginning or lose your right to vote.I myself went a few election periods to vote, and was turned away because I wasn't in the system they claimed. So I had my voter registration card, but lost it prior, and figured oh well all I have to do is show my driver's license. Nope they said, otherwise they said that if my voter card wasn't renewed I couldn't vote. Huh ?Did their signature match the one on my driver's license? HELL no!!
It doesn't matter. My father went to the polls one year to vote, and because of his arm surgery, he couldn't sign his name the way he usually did, so they stopped him. He showed them the surgery scar on his right arm, he presented two valid forms of ID, and all he was allowed to do is fill out a provisional ballot.
And I am most sorry to see Biden saying he will end the completion of the wall that has alleviated the flow of fentanyl that was killing 300 Americans per week from its passing the holes in the border for such a long time.
That and Biden reversing Trump's measures against China's unfair trade and copyright infringements, not to mention removing American jobs by sending them overseas once more as Biden gets ready to eliminate jobs Trump encouraged makes me wonder how we will make it through this winter.
No, I want to see VBM continue for those that want to use it and no, it is not most states that allow time off to vote. In about half it is unpaid time off. People working two jobs can’t take unpaid time off. (Which is about 13 million people).It’s not people on welfare that need expanded voting opportunities. They have plenty of time off to vote. It’s people working two jobs at places that don’t give you three hours off paid to wait in line.
In all the elections I ever voted in, the most I waited was a half-hour. Usually it's only about ten minutes. The law in most states is an employer has to allow you time to vote. You want to see mail in because one person out of 30,000 may have a second job? Ridiculous.
North Carolina requires a witness signature instead.No, “they” don’t. We check every signature against the voter’s registration form. We can also view signature histories and the signatures of everyone in the household...with a single click.
As local boards of elections meet this week to review the final set of mail-in ballots, they’ll look to make sure that the voter’s name and signature are on the front of each envelope. But they won’t look to see if that signature matches one on file somewhere, because voter signature matching is not required in North Carolina. Signature matching is a common practice, required in 30 states, to help protect the legitimacy of absentee mail-in ballots. But it’s not mandated in everywhere, including in key battleground states such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article247083467.html#storylink=cpy
Good thing dead people don’t vote. I have worked in an election office since 2006 and every instance of a “dead person” voting turned out to be false. Either the voter signed the wrong line on the roster, returned the wrong ballot or we killed off the wrong voter.One dead person's vote cancels one of the living's.Conservative votes should count more than dead people's votes.Although I was disappointed when Attorney General Barr resigned, he never was a sycophant, and Trump gave him the right to speak his mind about being unhappy with tweets. I'm disappointed the Democrats used both him and President as a whipping boy for their irrational hatred for good Constitutional interpretation.Sure, you cead-end trumpers believe that law is to protect one side while used against the other. Just look at the DOJ under trump sycophant billy barr.We believe in equality before the law, not equality of results.Dead-end trumpers don't believe in equal, they want their votes to count as more than colored votes.How woulld making them all equal make white votes count more?You mean, how can we assure that white votes count more than colored ones.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
Masks save lives? HaHaHa! Go read the mask box. "Not effective against covid virus" Why don't you take up smoking, it has a warning on the side that you can disregard too. SMHNo, I want to see VBM continue for those that want to use it and no, it is not most states that allow time off to vote. In about half it is unpaid time off. People working two jobs can’t take unpaid time off. (Which is about 13 million people).It’s not people on welfare that need expanded voting opportunities. They have plenty of time off to vote. It’s people working two jobs at places that don’t give you three hours off paid to wait in line.
In all the elections I ever voted in, the most I waited was a half-hour. Usually it's only about ten minutes. The law in most states is an employer has to allow you time to vote. You want to see mail in because one person out of 30,000 may have a second job? Ridiculous.
Yes, stupid American, masks save lives.Masks save lives? HaHaHa! Go read the mask box. "Not effective against covid virus" Why don't you take up smoking, it has a warning on the side that you can disregard too. SMHNo, I want to see VBM continue for those that want to use it and no, it is not most states that allow time off to vote. In about half it is unpaid time off. People working two jobs can’t take unpaid time off. (Which is about 13 million people).It’s not people on welfare that need expanded voting opportunities. They have plenty of time off to vote. It’s people working two jobs at places that don’t give you three hours off paid to wait in line.
In all the elections I ever voted in, the most I waited was a half-hour. Usually it's only about ten minutes. The law in most states is an employer has to allow you time to vote. You want to see mail in because one person out of 30,000 may have a second job? Ridiculous.
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Your last name must be Daley--you from Chicago?Good thing dead people don’t vote. I have worked in an election office since 2006 and every instance of a “dead person” voting turned out to be false. Either the voter signed the wrong line on the roster, returned the wrong ballot or we killed off the wrong voter.One dead person's vote cancels one of the living's.Conservative votes should count more than dead people's votes.Although I was disappointed when Attorney General Barr resigned, he never was a sycophant, and Trump gave him the right to speak his mind about being unhappy with tweets. I'm disappointed the Democrats used both him and President as a whipping boy for their irrational hatred for good Constitutional interpretation.Sure, you cead-end trumpers believe that law is to protect one side while used against the other. Just look at the DOJ under trump sycophant billy barr.We believe in equality before the law, not equality of results.Dead-end trumpers don't believe in equal, they want their votes to count as more than colored votes.How woulld making them all equal make white votes count more?You mean, how can we assure that white votes count more than colored ones.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
Run right down and get a suit like the emperor's. There are just as many "experts" that say masks are detrimental to your health--look out, whew, that piece of sky barely missed you.Yes, stupid American, masks save lives.Masks save lives? HaHaHa! Go read the mask box. "Not effective against covid virus" Why don't you take up smoking, it has a warning on the side that you can disregard too. SMHNo, I want to see VBM continue for those that want to use it and no, it is not most states that allow time off to vote. In about half it is unpaid time off. People working two jobs can’t take unpaid time off. (Which is about 13 million people).It’s not people on welfare that need expanded voting opportunities. They have plenty of time off to vote. It’s people working two jobs at places that don’t give you three hours off paid to wait in line.
In all the elections I ever voted in, the most I waited was a half-hour. Usually it's only about ten minutes. The law in most states is an employer has to allow you time to vote. You want to see mail in because one person out of 30,000 may have a second job? Ridiculous.
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Wow, you doubled down on the 6 year old's insult. What a surprise. And here you started out whining about a whole lot of people saying smoking doesn't cause cancer, but now are just whining about one person saying something else. Gotta move the goal posts in a hurry sometimes I guess."Trumptard"? Wow, that's just unbelievable. I'll never recover from that. Man, that's just devastating, and so mature too! I mean, I expected something along the lines of a playground insult from a five year old, but you came out with one from a 6 year old! That was unexpected. You kids just grow up so fast."They" used to deny cigarettes caused cancer? Have proof it was Republicans that denied it while democrats believed it? It would seem you got caught up in your fever swamp there a little bit.Republicans have been programmed to deny the facts. Facts don’t matter.There you go! It sounds like it's impossible to vote for someone else.
Not impossible, but improbable. Voting in person is the most secure way to vote.
Simply not true ^ The five states with all mail-in have had less fraud.
Choose your source
the five states with all mail in voting have found less fraud
You can't prove fraud until you find it. From what I understand, the Governor of Michigan had all machines locked down where nobody could get to them.
^ Reminds me of “can’t prove Bigfoot doesn’t exist until ya find him. Every time someone’s about to take a picture, he darts into the bushes!”
Ray, just stop it. All of you stop it! We’re screwed as a country if ya don’t.
Let me give you an example. Global warming is a fact. The entire world knows it. Half of American voters know it. The lobbyists and Mitch McConnell know it.
But as long as half the voters don’t know it, republicans will continue to pretend they don’t know because she’ll and bp pay them to deny the science.
No different than lead and tobacco. They used to deny cigarettes caused cancer remember? So then why do we continue to believe republican liars?
Republican voters have been convinced it’s the government scientists who are lying to keep their funding. It’s insane
Well Trumptard, I suppose we could begin here eh?
Now, your contention was that "they" denied tobacco causes cancer. That's not what Pence said, is it? He said that 9 out of 10 smokers don't develop lung cancer. If that is true (oops, it is since 10 to 15% of smokers develop lung cancer), then you can't truthfully claim that he said smoking doesn't cause cancer. You really shouldn't let your 6 year old emotions run so wild with you. Please try again, and remember, it wasn't very long ago that Republicans and democrats alike smoked while ignoring warnings and not believing they would develop cancer, and most did not.
Yep,I think Trumptard is a reasonably apt description of you ;-)
First, Pence asserts that smoking doesn’t kill. To back this up, he bafflingly concedes that a huge fraction of smokers — one in three! — die from smoking-related illnesses, a fact that a casual observer could be forgiven for interpreting as proof that smoking does, in fact, kill, and kills a lot of people at that. (Only one problem: Subsequent research has found that twoout of three smokers die from a smoking-related illness — not one in three, as Pence insisted.)
Do you really think over half of the voters are completely stupid?
I disagree. The number of voting centers has consistently decreased in republican administrations.. We had massive turnout this past election with no sizable voter fraud. Yet nearly every right leaning poster here wants to roll back voting by mail.Thats far from the truth. Nobody wants to disenfranchise anyone and nobody wants to stop anyone from voting. That is something that liberal media keeps drilling into you folks.That is the real reason they're against vote-by-mail... they don't want people voting.Voter IDs are so yesterday.Liberal racism. They think minorities are TOO STUPID to find a way down to the dmv in a two year period.How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.
That would solve 90% or more of our problems.
Have any republicans got away with it?
You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.
Republicans are going for other means of voter disenfranchisement since most people now have picture IDs
We had a very clean election this time. So it shouldn't be an issue going forward.What they do want is to make sure elections are honest and fair, they want to make sure nobody who isn't legally allowed to vote does vote and that ballots are not mailed to dead people, dogs, or people who have moved.
Again, Disagree. The only reason republicans are sqawking about fraud is because the mango messiah is telling them to. The other 8,000 losers on election day--not as much as a peep.If you could ensure, without any doubt, proveably, that there would be no increased risk of fraud, I bet most Republicans would be all for it, after all, even Republicans like convenience.
Not sure what that is.Actually, someone here mentioned a way for those things to happen, its call block chain. They mentioned that it would be a way to do the mail in voting, and pretty much eliminate the risks. Would you be in favor of that? If not, why not?
If we held an election tomorrow with the same exact perarmeters and the blob won...nobody on the right would be saying one damn word about voter fraud. True or false.
1) you say no sizeable voter fraud. Republicans would disagree. Even still, you say "no sizeable voter fraud". In my book, ANY voter fraud is too much. Who's to determine what is "sizeable"?I disagree. The number of voting centers has consistently decreased in republican administrations.. We had massive turnout this past election with no sizable voter fraud. Yet nearly every right leaning poster here wants to roll back voting by mail.Thats far from the truth. Nobody wants to disenfranchise anyone and nobody wants to stop anyone from voting. That is something that liberal media keeps drilling into you folks.That is the real reason they're against vote-by-mail... they don't want people voting.Voter IDs are so yesterday.Liberal racism. They think minorities are TOO STUPID to find a way down to the dmv in a two year period.How does requiring an ID disenfrancise anyone? If they are provided free of charge, and you have like 2 more years before the mid terms, plenty of time to get it done. If it is a way to ensure better vote security, how is that a bad thing?But we don’t have a problem with dead people voting or people voting twice.National voter registry & national voter id card. Both must be renewed on a regular basis. All registrations must be compared to deaths and incarcerations every year.This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.
Once that card is used in an election as required that person can not vote again until the next election.
That would solve 90% or more of our problems.
Have any republicans got away with it?
You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.
Republicans are going for other means of voter disenfranchisement since most people now have picture IDs
We had a very clean election this time. So it shouldn't be an issue going forward.What they do want is to make sure elections are honest and fair, they want to make sure nobody who isn't legally allowed to vote does vote and that ballots are not mailed to dead people, dogs, or people who have moved.
Again, Disagree. The only reason republicans are sqawking about fraud is because the mango messiah is telling them to. The other 8,000 losers on election day--not as much as a peep.If you could ensure, without any doubt, proveably, that there would be no increased risk of fraud, I bet most Republicans would be all for it, after all, even Republicans like convenience.
Not sure what that is.Actually, someone here mentioned a way for those things to happen, its call block chain. They mentioned that it would be a way to do the mail in voting, and pretty much eliminate the risks. Would you be in favor of that? If not, why not?
If we held an election tomorrow with the same exact perarmeters and the blob won...nobody on the right would be saying one damn word about voter fraud. True or false.
