Mass incarceration. Sessions says- Lock em up, throw away the key.

[Eloy]

Where you live sounds like one of those third world countries. Quite shocking that someone gets more time for passing a joint to a pal than someone guilty of manslaughter. Positively primitive.

So...did you not read the post you quoted, or did you just ignore it?

70 years is too disproportionate.

t the conclusion of a four-day jury trial this week in Macon County Superior Court Adam Joshua Sanders, 30, of Franklin was convicted of trafficking in methamphetamine by possession, trafficking in methamphetamine by transportation, and conspiracy to traffic in methamphetamine. He was sentenced Thursday to a maximum of 70 and a half years in prison, and he will serve at least 56 years before he is eligible for release. This case was the first case for trial during a three week special narcotics terms in Macon County Superior Court that began on Monday and will continue for the next two weeks.

I think he got what he deserved.

Adam Sanders sentenced to 70 years for drug trafficking - The Macon County News

He is a piece of shit who was contributing directly to this poison that are killing the youth here and destroying families. Don't want to go to prison? Don't commit the crime.

I believe there could be a challenge to this sentence on the grounds of it being unusually cruel.
I notice Judge Coward is highly political and is an alum of the University of North Carolina School of Law.

Is 400 grams or more, such person shall be punished as a Class C felon and shall be sentenced to a minimum term of 225 months and a maximum term of 282 months in the State's prison and shall be fined at least two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000).

That's for ONE charge! That's a max of 23 years for that charge alone

He also got charged with the transportation which is ANOTHER max of 23 years.

And the last charge the conspiracy charge is again a max of 23 years so...69 years and some months is probably what he actually got....

http://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Drug-Trafficking-Sentencing-2012.pdf

For one arrest and one trial, sentencing can be concurrent.

 

[Billo_Really]

Does your experience in County give you that insight?

No, my experience at County (more than once), did not give me that insight.

 

[Cellblock2429]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

/----- Liberals need to take low level drug offenders into their home just to prove how liberal they truly are.

 

[Auld Phart]

Does your experience in County give you that insight?

No, my experience at County (more than once), did not give me that insight.

did your various experiences at county include you being housed with a 1st degree murderer?

 

[Cellblock2429]

"The move is a reversal of ex-President Barack Obama's policy to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes.

It means we are going to meet our responsibility to enforce the law with judgment and fairness," Mr Sessions said on Friday. "It is simply the right and moral thing to do."

Mr Sessions' predecessor, Eric Holder, had instructed prosecutors in 2013 to avoid pursuing the maximum punishment for criminals in cases such as minor drug offences, which would have triggered mandatory minimum sentencing.

The 2013 policy also encouraged prosecutors to omit details about drug quantities in cases of non-violent offenders with no previous charges or ties to gangs or cartels to avoid harsher punishments.
Mandatory minimum sentences laws, which were passed in the 1980s and 1990s as part of the US "war on drugs", prevent judges from applying discretion when sentencing certain drug offences and are instead determined by the quantity of drugs involved in the crime.
Mr Obama had sought to ease mandatory minimum sentences to reduce jail time for low-level drug crimes and help relieve overcrowded prisons in the US as part of criminal justice reform."

US law boss Sessions orders harsher criminal sentencing - BBC News





"The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.

Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars,
China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison


If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people.
The others have much lower rates. England's rate is 151; Germany's is 88; and Japan's is 63.
(The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate)


Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America's extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.
Whatever the reason, the gap between American justice and that of the rest of the world is enormous and growing.


The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s.


People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Whitman wrote.

In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
"The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism," said Stern of King's College.

Still, it is the length of sentences that truly distinguishes American prison policy.
Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations

/----- Because we can afford to incarcerate them in a humane manner. What do you think happens in dictatorships?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Simple enough

/----- Beretta

 

[Billo_Really]

did your various experiences at county include you being housed with a 1st degree murderer?

I don't know. I know people who killed people were housed at county for a period of time. I also know at County they are typically housed according to race and gang affiliation. I know there is a gang module at the Central Jail in LA County. I personally was in a 60 man tank at the OC jail in Santa Ana.

The possibility does exist. What is not a possibility, but a proven fact, is that when you put non-violent offenders in with violent felons, the non-violent offenders come out more radicalized and violent.

 

[Billo_Really]

I can't think of a state that agrees with that.

Can you name one

No. What I'm saying is that should not be a law.

 

[Vandalshandle]

People do not form gangs and murder each other for money to buy a bottle of vodka. Think about it.

So the answer is to give into the criminals and let Americans kill themselves on drugs?

Do you think there are no illegal pot sales in Colorado or Washington? Do you think the mob quit running numbers because of lotteries, or quit taking bets because of casinos? That's ridiculous. The criminal element simply makes their product more attractive than the governments.

Well, now that you mention it, I don't give a rat's ass about the problems of drug addicts. I only care what drug addiction does to our society. Consequently, if someone kills themself by drug abuse, it is not my problem. And, as for Colorado, my lady friend's daughter lives in Colorado Springs and used to break the law every week buying pot. Now, she simply grows her own, and it is legal. I suspect that her dealer is no longer in business.

I'll have to look that up when I have time, but I remember reading how illegal pot sales increased in Colorado because they just undercut the highly taxed legal pot. In fact, some try to get medical pot because medical pot is not taxed from what I understand.

Correct, it is not your problem if somebody else's kid dies from drugs. But I think you'd have a different opinion if it actually (God forbid) happened to a member of your immediate family. Drugs hurt a lot more people than just the user.

As a matter of fact, I lost my father to suicide due to alcohol, before the age of 8, and the truth is that we were all glad that he wasn't coming back home again.

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So the answer is to give into the criminals and let Americans kill themselves on drugs?

Do you think there are no illegal pot sales in Colorado or Washington? Do you think the mob quit running numbers because of lotteries, or quit taking bets because of casinos? That's ridiculous. The criminal element simply makes their product more attractive than the governments.

Well, now that you mention it, I don't give a rat's ass about the problems of drug addicts. I only care what drug addiction does to our society. Consequently, if someone kills themself by drug abuse, it is not my problem. And, as for Colorado, my lady friend's daughter lives in Colorado Springs and used to break the law every week buying pot. Now, she simply grows her own, and it is legal. I suspect that her dealer is no longer in business.

I'll have to look that up when I have time, but I remember reading how illegal pot sales increased in Colorado because they just undercut the highly taxed legal pot. In fact, some try to get medical pot because medical pot is not taxed from what I understand.

Correct, it is not your problem if somebody else's kid dies from drugs. But I think you'd have a different opinion if it actually (God forbid) happened to a member of your immediate family. Drugs hurt a lot more people than just the user.

As a matter of fact, I lost my father to suicide due to alcohol, before the age of 8, and the truth is that we were all glad that he wasn't coming back home again.

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

Way to avoid the question. A friend dying is much different than an immediate family member that you actually care about. I've had friends that died from various things, but it's different when it's an immediate family member dies--especially a very young one because of drugs.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Well, now that you mention it, I don't give a rat's ass about the problems of drug addicts. I only care what drug addiction does to our society. Consequently, if someone kills themself by drug abuse, it is not my problem. And, as for Colorado, my lady friend's daughter lives in Colorado Springs and used to break the law every week buying pot. Now, she simply grows her own, and it is legal. I suspect that her dealer is no longer in business.

I'll have to look that up when I have time, but I remember reading how illegal pot sales increased in Colorado because they just undercut the highly taxed legal pot. In fact, some try to get medical pot because medical pot is not taxed from what I understand.

Correct, it is not your problem if somebody else's kid dies from drugs. But I think you'd have a different opinion if it actually (God forbid) happened to a member of your immediate family. Drugs hurt a lot more people than just the user.

As a matter of fact, I lost my father to suicide due to alcohol, before the age of 8, and the truth is that we were all glad that he wasn't coming back home again.

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

Way to avoid the question. A friend dying is much different than an immediate family member that you actually care about. I've had friends that died from various things, but it's different when it's an immediate family member dies--especially a very young one because of drugs.

I am not going to keep answering your question until you decide that I have used the right words. My answer is simple. I have no problem accepting the consequences of decriminalizing drugs, PERIOD.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I can't think of a state that agrees with that.

Can you name one

No. What I'm saying is that should not be a law.

True story:

When we were teens, a friend of mine got in trouble with a girl, so they ran off to Florida. They did fine for a few months, but eventually the cops caught up with them because they were both under age. They were sent back to Ohio and had the intention of getting married. Suddenly, she decided she didn't want the baby.

My friend said he would gladly take his baby and ask nothing of her in way of support, but she refused to give the baby to him. It went to court and was fought for months. In the meantime, he was courting my sister and they got engaged. My sister told the court that after they got married, she would be willing to take the baby and raise it herself.

After a lot of fighting and a lot of money spent, the court decided that the mother had the right to have children services put the baby up for adoption. So the bailiff took his son from his arms in the court room and that was the last time he held him.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'll have to look that up when I have time, but I remember reading how illegal pot sales increased in Colorado because they just undercut the highly taxed legal pot. In fact, some try to get medical pot because medical pot is not taxed from what I understand.

Correct, it is not your problem if somebody else's kid dies from drugs. But I think you'd have a different opinion if it actually (God forbid) happened to a member of your immediate family. Drugs hurt a lot more people than just the user.

As a matter of fact, I lost my father to suicide due to alcohol, before the age of 8, and the truth is that we were all glad that he wasn't coming back home again.

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

Way to avoid the question. A friend dying is much different than an immediate family member that you actually care about. I've had friends that died from various things, but it's different when it's an immediate family member dies--especially a very young one because of drugs.

I am not going to keep answering your question until you decide that I have used the right words. My answer is simple. I have no problem accepting the consequences of decriminalizing drugs, PERIOD.

Again, avoiding the question, this time pretending you don't remember what the question was. So one more time: Would you feel the same way if it was your son or grandson? Would you just say "Oh well, he made his own decisions?" Picture your son or granddaughter in that box and tell me you would still want to see the decriminalization of recreational narcotics--the very same narcotics that took your loved one and changed your life forever.

I'm sure you're going to tell me yes, you would feel the same way to prove your point. You don't have to be honest with me, but for dear God's sake, be honest with yourself and pretend you just came home from the funeral parlor tonight. Because somewhere in this country, that's exactly what one (or more) family had to do tonight.

 

[Markle]

The similarly [similarity] is that neither is identified as a federal responsibility by the Constitution & both should be under the jurisdiction of individual states

As you might know, the Constitution was not designed to enumerate everything the Federal Government was required to do for the people. Just the opposite which also infuriated petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama. One thing mandated that the government, specifically the president do is to DEFEND the country. If you do not believe that illegal drugs, illegal immigration, human trafficking and inner state gangs are a national problem, you are a fool.

Also,

Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:[3]

[The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

 

[Vandalshandle]

As a matter of fact, I lost my father to suicide due to alcohol, before the age of 8, and the truth is that we were all glad that he wasn't coming back home again.

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

Way to avoid the question. A friend dying is much different than an immediate family member that you actually care about. I've had friends that died from various things, but it's different when it's an immediate family member dies--especially a very young one because of drugs.

I am not going to keep answering your question until you decide that I have used the right words. My answer is simple. I have no problem accepting the consequences of decriminalizing drugs, PERIOD.

Again, avoiding the question, this time pretending you don't remember what the question was. So one more time: Would you feel the same way if it was your son or grandson? Would you just say "Oh well, he made his own decisions?" Picture your son or granddaughter in that box and tell me you would still want to see the decriminalization of recreational narcotics--the very same narcotics that took your loved one and changed your life forever.

I'm sure you're going to tell me yes, you would feel the same way to prove your point. You don't have to be honest with me, but for dear God's sake, be honest with yourself and pretend you just came home from the funeral parlor tonight. Because somewhere in this country, that's exactly what one (or more) family had to do tonight.

Ray, you will have to find somebody else to parse sentences with.

 

[Dschrute3]

Check out the video i posted. It's very interesting. And Sessions is pretty much a Nazi. Unfortunately, Trump has buddied-up with another insane Neocon. Neocons have a nasty Nazi streak in em. Their ideology is very much in-line with Nazi ideology. They're very dangerous people.

Sessions really does probably believe that God told him he must imprison more Citizens. Something loony like that. I still support Trump, but i am very disappointed he's allowed Neocons so much power & influence in his Administration. They could sink him. They're very nasty destructive folks. He better be careful.

"he surrounds himself with Nazis but I still support him"


quite flawed logic you have there friend.

I've said many times before that i supported Trump for just a couple issues. My two most important issues are Immigration and the Supreme Court. Those two issues will decide our nation's future. And on those issues, the alternative to Trump was unacceptable for me. Clinton would have been an absolute disaster. Her Immigration policy was gonna emulate Merkel's policies in Germany. And obviously her Supreme Court Justices were gonna be extremist Left/Globalists. So i had to go with Trump.

All the other issues don't matter much to me. It's all about Immigration and the Supreme Court. The Courts run the show now. They'll decide our nation's future. And on those issues, Trump an I are on the same page. But i am disappointed he's allowed so many Neocons so much influence on him. They could sink him. They're very destructive folks. They do have a nasty Nazi streak in em. Sessions is a prime example of that. Hopefully Trump won't let them sink him. But i guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

So you hate Mexicans soooooo much you would admittedly hand our white house over to Nazis. Wow.
What did the Mexicans ever do to you?

I don't hate anyone. I love my country. It is time to end Illegal Immigration. I welcome folks to my country, but they'll have to do it the organized legal way. The chaos needs to end. Clinton was gonna double-down on our Immigration Nightmare. That was my alternative. Trump was the only choice. It is what it is.

You understand illegals don't just do it for fun, right? That they don't like being "illegal," don't like constantly looking over their shoulder, don't like stressing about the breaking up of their family on a daily basis.
They do it to chase the american dream, just like our ancestors, and they do it illegally because our naturalization process is so broken it can take decades.

Like i said, i welcome folks to my country. But it has to be done the right way. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it has to be.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Okay, so how would you feel about going to your son or daughters funeral, or if you are older, one of your grandchildren's funeral because of drugs?

I know that everyone on the Right feels like democrats do not believe in "personal responsibility", but you are wrong. Anyone who is an addict, or an alcoholic is going to remain one, until such time as he, himself, decides not to be one any more. Neither I, nor society, can do that for him. My best friend from high school days became a meth addict, and committed suicide, before he was 30. It was entirely on him, and nobody else.

Way to avoid the question. A friend dying is much different than an immediate family member that you actually care about. I've had friends that died from various things, but it's different when it's an immediate family member dies--especially a very young one because of drugs.

I am not going to keep answering your question until you decide that I have used the right words. My answer is simple. I have no problem accepting the consequences of decriminalizing drugs, PERIOD.

Again, avoiding the question, this time pretending you don't remember what the question was. So one more time: Would you feel the same way if it was your son or grandson? Would you just say "Oh well, he made his own decisions?" Picture your son or granddaughter in that box and tell me you would still want to see the decriminalization of recreational narcotics--the very same narcotics that took your loved one and changed your life forever.

I'm sure you're going to tell me yes, you would feel the same way to prove your point. You don't have to be honest with me, but for dear God's sake, be honest with yourself and pretend you just came home from the funeral parlor tonight. Because somewhere in this country, that's exactly what one (or more) family had to do tonight.

Ray, you will have to find somebody else to parse sentences with.

I'm sure I will. But hopefully, you will think about what I wrote.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

did your various experiences at county include you being housed with a 1st degree murderer?

I don't know. I know people who killed people were housed at county for a period of time. I also know at County they are typically housed according to race and gang affiliation. I know there is a gang module at the Central Jail in LA County. I personally was in a 60 man tank at the OC jail in Santa Ana.

The possibility does exist. What is not a possibility, but a proven fact, is that when you put non-violent offenders in with violent felons, the non-violent offenders come out more radicalized and violent.

That's because non violent offenses do not mean non violent people.

 

[Dschrute3]

I've said many times before that i supported Trump for just a couple issues. My two most important issues are Immigration and the Supreme Court. Those two issues will decide our nation's future. And on those issues, the alternative to Trump was unacceptable for me. Clinton would have been an absolute disaster. Her Immigration policy was gonna emulate Merkel's policies in Germany. And obviously her Supreme Court Justices were gonna be extremist Left/Globalists. So i had to go with Trump.

All the other issues don't matter much to me. It's all about Immigration and the Supreme Court. The Courts run the show now. They'll decide our nation's future. And on those issues, Trump an I are on the same page. But i am disappointed he's allowed so many Neocons so much influence on him. They could sink him. They're very destructive folks. They do have a nasty Nazi streak in em. Sessions is a prime example of that. Hopefully Trump won't let them sink him. But i guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

So you hate Mexicans soooooo much you would admittedly hand our white house over to Nazis. Wow.
What did the Mexicans ever do to you?

What did nazis ever do to you?

Anyone whose opinions you don't like is a nazi. Whereas, Mexicans commit horrific crimes on a daily basis.

I didn't bring up nazis nor did I compare anyone to a nazi.
"mexicans commit horrific crimes on a daily basis"
You really are a piece of work. You know, you sound just as idiotic as trump. If you would like to go around parroting rhetoric, pick someone respectable lol.

I think he or she was referring to Illegal Immigration. We shouldn't be importing Thousands of brutal criminals from other nations. We have enough crime problems with our own Citizenry. Illegal Immigration needs to end. Period, end of story

can one of you buffoons please provide a source that shows Mexicans are brutal criminals any more than any other race?

I don't believe anyone here made that claim. You might just be paranoid, or 'Snowflake-Sensitive.' We have no business importing Thousands of brutal criminals to our country. We have enough problems. Illegal Immigration needs to end. It doesn't need to be 'slowed' or 'reduced.' It needs to end, period.

 

[Dschrute3]

I've said many times before that i supported Trump for just a couple issues. My two most important issues are Immigration and the Supreme Court. Those two issues will decide our nation's future. And on those issues, the alternative to Trump was unacceptable for me. Clinton would have been an absolute disaster. Her Immigration policy was gonna emulate Merkel's policies in Germany. And obviously her Supreme Court Justices were gonna be extremist Left/Globalists. So i had to go with Trump.

All the other issues don't matter much to me. It's all about Immigration and the Supreme Court. The Courts run the show now. They'll decide our nation's future. And on those issues, Trump an I are on the same page. But i am disappointed he's allowed so many Neocons so much influence on him. They could sink him. They're very destructive folks. They do have a nasty Nazi streak in em. Sessions is a prime example of that. Hopefully Trump won't let them sink him. But i guess we'll see. Stay tuned.

So you hate Mexicans soooooo much you would admittedly hand our white house over to Nazis. Wow.
What did the Mexicans ever do to you?

I don't hate anyone. I love my country. It is time to end Illegal Immigration. I welcome folks to my country, but they'll have to do it the organized legal way. The chaos needs to end. Clinton was gonna double-down on our Immigration Nightmare. That was my alternative. Trump was the only choice. It is what it is.

You understand illegals don't just do it for fun, right? That they don't like being "illegal," don't like constantly looking over their shoulder, don't like stressing about the breaking up of their family on a daily basis.
They do it to chase the american dream, just like our ancestors, and they do it illegally because our naturalization process is so broken it can take decades.

The US allows one million foreigners a year to enter this country legally. We have that limit so they can assimilate and not try to change our culture. If you have to wait, too bad. We can't let everybody in nor do we want to. Our immigration system is just fine.

You keep thinking it's just fine, and scratching your head at the number of illegals.

If we were truly a Nation of Laws, our Immigration System would be considered fine. The Law isn't currently being enforced properly. Our Legal Immigration System does need some work, but overall it's ok. Once we end Illegal Immigration, we'll be able to better focus on tweeking the Legal Immigration System.