Question 2: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions?

[1srelluc]

Then it doesn't remind you of the GIF you posted. You just wanted to be insulting.

Insulting you and your ilk is not a vice.

 

[Crepitus]

Insulting you and your ilk is not a vice.

That's nice.

 

[JLW]

Steve Bannon in a moment of honesty called himself a “Leninist.” Like Lenin, he said, he wants to see the whole system collapse. If you read the right-wingers on this forum and elsewhere, they express the same sentiment. Bring it all down! The OP asks why right-wingers distrust our institutions. I don’t think distrust goes far enough. Right-wingers have a hatred and disdain for our institutions. They want to see them destroyed. As contradictory as it may seem many right-wingers, especially Trumpers, are just closeted Leninists.

Steve Bannon, Trump’s Top Guy, Told Me He Was ‘a Leninist’

The Breitbart executive director turned GOP leader boasted at a party about his goal of destroying the conservative establishment.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[boevans]

Question 2: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions?​

Another imbecile OP and question.

Why would anyone who loves America “trust” institutions which have been corrupted?

All institutions are corrupt because humans are corrupt. You are corrupt, BackAgain, so no one has reason to care what you think.

You need rethink the basis for your argument.

 

[boevans]

Steve Bannon in a moment of honesty called himself a “Leninist.” Like Lenin he said, he wants to see the whole system collapse. If you read the right-wingers on this forum and elsewhere, they express the same sentiment. Bring it all down! The OP asks why right-wingers distrust our institutions. I don’t think distrust goes far enough. Right-wingers have a hatred and disdain for our institutions. They want to see them destroyed. As contradictory as it may seem many right-wingers, especially Trumpers, are just closeted Leninist.

They are nihilists, Leninists, so forth, because the institutions and the law limit their unreasonable and their inhuman goals.

 

[1srelluc]

Steve Bannon in a moment of honesty called himself a “Leninist.” Like Lenin he said, he wants to see the whole system collapse. If you read the right-wingers on this forum and elsewhere, they express the same sentiment. Bring it all down! The OP asks why right-wingers distrust our institutions. I don’t think distrust goes far enough. Right-wingers have a hatred and disdain for our institutions. They want to see them destroyed. As contradictory as it may seem many right-wingers, especially Trumpers, are just closeted Leninist.

I could forgive a lot of past .gov agency wrongs if I saw leftists detained and dropped from helicopters.

 

[JLW]

I could forgive a lot of past .gov agency wrongs if I saw leftists detained and dropped from helicopters.

Spoken like a true Leninist.

 

[1srelluc]

Spoken like a real Leninist. Look in the mirror for the far lefty, Leninist.

 

[Mac1958]

Steve Bannon in a moment of honesty called himself a “Leninist.” Like Lenin, he said, he wants to see the whole system collapse.

It's the nihilists and anarchists like Bannon, Stephen Miller and Kash Patel who are pushing this. Then the craven opportunists in MAGA "media" carry their water for them. Bannon, Miller and Patel are just using Trump because the base loves his showbiz mania.

The street level rubes are so full of misguided rage, mal-information and pure ignorance that they don't understand what it is they're asking for. They've been fed this romantic notion of what it would be like, and are so empty and desperate that they've fallen for it.

The world has seen this before. It doesn't end well.

 

[JLW]

It's the nihilists and anarchists like Bannon, Stephen Miller and Kash Patel who are pushing this. Then the craven opportunists in MAGA "media" carry their water for them. Bannon, Miller and Patel are just using Trump because the base loves his showbiz mania.

The street level rubes are so full of misguided rage, mal-information and pure ignorance that they don't understand what it is they're asking for. They've been fed this romantic idea of what it would be like, and are so empty and desperate that they've fallen for it.

The world has seen this before. It doesn't end well.

I really believe there is a paradigm shift occurring. The Democratic Party Is morphing into a moderate Conservative Party and the Republican Party is headed into nihilist and Leninist territory. There is little conservative about today’s Republican/Trumpist party. The Trumpist posters on this forum evidence this transition.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I really believe there is a paradigm shift occurring. The Democratic Party Is morphing into a moderate Conservative Party and the Republican Party is headed into nihilist and Leninist territory. There is little conservative about today’s Republican/Trumpist party. The Trumpist posters on this forum evidence this transition.

The Democratic Party Is morphing into a moderate Conservative Party

Based on what moderate/conservative positions?

 

[JLW]

The Democratic Party Is morphing into a moderate Conservative Party

Based on what moderate/conservative positions?

For starters, see the following.

The Democrats Are Now America’s Conservative Party

Liberals find themselves in the strange position of having won most of their major battles of this century.

www.theatlantic.com

Even today, it was the Democrats that pushed for aid to the Ukraine and Taiwan that the Trumpist wing of the dying Republican Party rejected. The Democrats are much more supportive of the western alliance than many so-called conservatives. I am not even going go into the Right’s abandonment of the Reaganesque peace through strength philosophy and its cozying up to our adversaries. The Republican/Trumpist party is far more populist than it is “conservative.”

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For starters, see the following.

The Democrats Are Now America’s Conservative Party

Liberals find themselves in the strange position of having won most of their major battles of this century.

www.theatlantic.com

Even today, it was the Democrats that pushed for aid to the Ukraine and Taiwan that the Trumpist wing of the dying Republican Party rejected. The Democrats are much more supportive of the western alliance than many so-called conservatives. I am not even going go into the Right’s abandonment of the Reaganesque peace through strength philosophy and its cozying up to our adversaries.

Pro-abortion, higher taxes and hormones for kids don't sound very conservative.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Part II of my disussion on the American right asks the question: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions? It stands to reason that if you love something you tend to love the fruit it produces, right? Right wingers claim they love America more than their counterparts but have expressed utter contempt for all of its institutions. How can something so revered also be so reviled?

A partial list of untrustworthy institutions:

• The American press
• Doctors
• Scientists like the CDC
• Educators and universities
• Environmental experts like the EPA
• Government leaders and administrators
• The Election process
• The legal system
• The actual government

The distrust is so visceral that right wing conspiracies are now commonplace. The article below talks about Fox News’ role in this predicament. As you can see from the chart below it is entirely an American phenomenon.

Why dont right wingers trust American Institutions?


Feel free to visit or revisit Part 1: Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?


Post Inspiration:

Fox News has destroyed American confidence in itself - Kevin Drum

This week the Economist wrote about the way American trust in institutions has collapsed over the past couple of decades. This is not news. However, this is a very interesting comparison: Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the...

jabberwocking.com

Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the others don't. Oh, they have tabloids and conservative newspapers and so forth, but nothing like Fox News, which makes its living by spreading outrage over the way the country is run.

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The power of Fox News is truly spectacular. Outrage sells, and the fact that one of the two major parties amplifies Fox uncritically means it has a surprisingly large influence in setting the agenda for the mainstream media too.

The truth is that US institutions mostly operate about as well as they ever have. But Fox pushes outrage over Dr. Fauci and trust in the CDC plummets. They push outrage over Donald Trump's loss in 2020 and trust in elections plummets. They go all in on CRT and DEI and trust in schools plummets. They push climate denialism and trust in science plummets. They insist that the rest of the news media are liberal pawns and trust in the very institution that explains reality plummets.

Has there ever been an institution like Fox News that works so relentlessly from within to destroy faith in a country by its citizens? It's a real-life version of what conservatives thought the Communist Party was in the '50s. And we all just let it happen.

some people question many of the actions these institutions do....you should try it sometimes....

 

[otto105]

Part II of my disussion on the American right asks the question: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions? It stands to reason that if you love something you tend to love the fruit it produces, right? Right wingers claim they love America more than their counterparts but have expressed utter contempt for all of its institutions. How can something so revered also be so reviled?

A partial list of untrustworthy institutions:

• The American press
• Doctors
• Scientists like the CDC
• Educators and universities
• Environmental experts like the EPA
• Government leaders and administrators
• The Election process
• The legal system
• The actual government

The distrust is so visceral that right wing conspiracies are now commonplace. The article below talks about Fox News’ role in this predicament. As you can see from the chart below it is entirely an American phenomenon.

Why dont right wingers trust American Institutions?


Feel free to visit or revisit Part 1: Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?


Post Inspiration:

Fox News has destroyed American confidence in itself - Kevin Drum

This week the Economist wrote about the way American trust in institutions has collapsed over the past couple of decades. This is not news. However, this is a very interesting comparison: Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the...

jabberwocking.com

Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the others don't. Oh, they have tabloids and conservative newspapers and so forth, but nothing like Fox News, which makes its living by spreading outrage over the way the country is run.

View attachment 934907

The power of Fox News is truly spectacular. Outrage sells, and the fact that one of the two major parties amplifies Fox uncritically means it has a surprisingly large influence in setting the agenda for the mainstream media too.

The truth is that US institutions mostly operate about as well as they ever have. But Fox pushes outrage over Dr. Fauci and trust in the CDC plummets. They push outrage over Donald Trump's loss in 2020 and trust in elections plummets. They go all in on CRT and DEI and trust in schools plummets. They push climate denialism and trust in science plummets. They insist that the rest of the news media are liberal pawns and trust in the very institution that explains reality plummets.

Has there ever been an institution like Fox News that works so relentlessly from within to destroy faith in a country by its citizens? It's a real-life version of what conservatives thought the Communist Party was in the '50s. And we all just let it happen.

The desire for fascism extends explains everything.

As long as it’s their guy.

Women can’t apply.

 

[JWBooth]

Question 2: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions?​

Experience

 

[Hollie]

Part II of my disussion on the American right asks the question: If right wingers love America, why dont they trust American institutions? It stands to reason that if you love something you tend to love the fruit it produces, right? Right wingers claim they love America more than their counterparts but have expressed utter contempt for all of its institutions. How can something so revered also be so reviled?

A partial list of untrustworthy institutions:

• The American press
• Doctors
• Scientists like the CDC
• Educators and universities
• Environmental experts like the EPA
• Government leaders and administrators
• The Election process
• The legal system
• The actual government

The distrust is so visceral that right wing conspiracies are now commonplace. The article below talks about Fox News’ role in this predicament. As you can see from the chart below it is entirely an American phenomenon.

Why dont right wingers trust American Institutions?


Feel free to visit or revisit Part 1: Do right wingers actually ‘like’ America?


Post Inspiration:

Fox News has destroyed American confidence in itself - Kevin Drum

This week the Economist wrote about the way American trust in institutions has collapsed over the past couple of decades. This is not news. However, this is a very interesting comparison: Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the...

jabberwocking.com

Collapse of trust in government is a purely American phenomenon. Why? Because we have Fox News and the others don't. Oh, they have tabloids and conservative newspapers and so forth, but nothing like Fox News, which makes its living by spreading outrage over the way the country is run.

View attachment 934907

The power of Fox News is truly spectacular. Outrage sells, and the fact that one of the two major parties amplifies Fox uncritically means it has a surprisingly large influence in setting the agenda for the mainstream media too.

The truth is that US institutions mostly operate about as well as they ever have. But Fox pushes outrage over Dr. Fauci and trust in the CDC plummets. They push outrage over Donald Trump's loss in 2020 and trust in elections plummets. They go all in on CRT and DEI and trust in schools plummets. They push climate denialism and trust in science plummets. They insist that the rest of the news media are liberal pawns and trust in the very institution that explains reality plummets.

Has there ever been an institution like Fox News that works so relentlessly from within to destroy faith in a country by its citizens? It's a real-life version of what conservatives thought the Communist Party was in the '50s. And we all just let it happen.

Embarrassing to everyone but you.

 

[the watcher]

That's just the credibility of our own people. I think you'll find if you look closely the only other countries that trust us are those we subsidize and perform enforcement for. We earned every raised eyebrow too, and other nations aren't under the media lockdown like we are.

 

[Clipper]

The voices they trust make a good living turning them into paranoid drama queens.

If something isn't working properly, you fix it, using intelligence, reason and innovation. You don't destroy it like an angry caveman.

Well, you have Trump who hates this Country, Fox who parrots his bullshit & retards like MTG & others in Washington who fund raise off the rhetoric. Then we have Donald "Brother Can You Spare A Dime" Trump grifting off his hate rants & lies, witness the $250 million "stop the steal" scam he was running.

What it all boils down to? Just follow the money. Anyone who subscribes to anything else or tries to reason out what the lowlifes above are up to is is mistaken.

 

[whitehall]

Back in the 60's lefties told us not to trust anyone over 30 and that government was an evil institution dedicated to ruining the lives of free spirits. Now the same radicals are in charge and they tell us "don't worry/be happy" and believe anything in print, trust teachers who groom, seduce and castrate kids and that a doddering old fool who has his trembling thumb on the nuclear button is the solution instead of the problem.