What Are Conservatives Trying to Conserve?

[Immanuel]

What are Conservatives trying to conserve?

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are three things we're trying to stop liberals from taking.

Immie

 

[The T]

What are Conservatives trying to conserve?

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are three things we're trying to stop liberals from taking.

Immie

The Declaration Of Independence as codified in the Constituion.

*You Bet*.

 

[Vidi]

What Flaylo is saying, and I think you'd have to agree, is that politicians and bureaucrats are never corrupt in the first place, so with government you don't even need to worry about that...

With government, we can vote them out. In private industry, the corrupt just take their bonus, move onto their next position and do it all over again.

But the reality is the problem is US, the voters, because we DON'T vote them out.

Yes comrade, I see what you're saying. It's like the DMV, they are responsive because you can vote them out. They value your time. You only say this because you're too butt lazy to walk across the street to their competitor. And Virginia, failed execs don't get jobs so easy at other successful companies.

Here's an exercise for you.

Part 1. Write down the companies you hate, the ones that are completely unresponsive to customers. You have to complete this part before you move to the second part below.

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Part 2. Note you just wrote down companies who have competition the most restricted by...government. Now re-read what you said at the top again. If you do this with intellectual integrity, we now have one less liberal in the world...

That has nothing at all to do with anything I said.

In fact, you made the assumption that I hate companies. And that im a communist.

So I shall assume you are an ass.

 

[Staidhup]

Ira Glasser: What Are Conservatives Trying to Conserve?

In 1980 Reagan was elected, and the modern conservative political movement began, not as a protest, but as a hegemony. The lasting accomplishments of the Reagan years may have been the changes in the tax code and regulatory regimes that had prevailed for nearly a half century. But that was not what fueled his electoral success; what fueled his electoral success was the fundamentalist movement represented by Falwell, Pat Robertson and what came to be called the social agenda. Censorship of Kurt Vonnegut, Judy Blume and others, movements to pass "creationist" statutes that attempted to elevate the book of Genesis to a branch of science; hostility to the claims of gays, women and reproductive rights all combined to generate what began to be called "the culture wars." To a very demonstrable extent, I think, the conservative movement of the last 30 years (absent the economic issues of deregulation, also supported by Clinton and Robert Rubin and beyond the comprehension or the interest of most voters) may be seen as a panic response to a crumbling world and to the rights expansions of the '60s that struck like a tsunami, washing away all the prior governing arrangements. For these people, reality itself, or at least a reality where they felt in charge, was disappearing. As always, it was the symbols of these changes that were attacked: the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court, which (unelected) had rendered many of these decisions; the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, which had brought many of the cases or performed hated services; books and magazines and films; television and Hollywood and "eastern elites." When Pat Buchanan roared, in his quixotic presidential campaign, that "we" needed to "take back our country," he was talking about a country prior to the rights revolutions of the 60s, when people who looked and believed like him ruled the roost and did not have their powers limited by the rights we had won. What conservatives were desperately trying to conserve was not the values at America's origin (the Bill of Rights was, after all, ratified in 1791), but rather the privileges and powers of 19th century and early 20th century America. This is what has fueled the reactionary politics of the past three decades, and it is what we are seeing now in the Republican base and its candidates.

Can the forum say Amen? I do, conservatives aren't conserving anything that works to the good of all Americans.

Just a little document entitled the Constitution and basic fundamental freedoms it affords American citizens.

No one person is their brothers keeper unless however you are incapable of taking care of yourself and need mommy and daddy to take care of you from cradle to grave. In that case, hold on to your binky tight because the financial results of uncontrolled big government is coming down the road full speed to ruin your litlle parade!

 

[zonly1]

Vidi you really need to get out more. Penny is worthless every day .. prices go up b/c we keep printing more money cheaping our dollar driving down consumers purchasing power.

A penny is worth what I can get for it.


Meet Kyle, who traded a paper clip for a house:


one red paperclip - Kyle MacDonald

actually it cost more to make a penny...it cost 1.4c to make one penny

 

[Liability]

Fail-lo "asks" the idiotic "question," "What Are Conservatives Trying to Conserve?"



So the question becomes, "What Are Liberals Trying to Destroy, Neglect, Squander, Waste?"

I got to say "Destroy, Neglect, Squander, Waste?" are the foundations of conseritive voters today. They learned get the check book pen spend, spend, spend. Thanks got that clear in my mind..

Fixed your quote function son.

Thank me.

Sadly, his inability to use the quote function was not corrected in your effort and it now reads as though I said something I never said.

 

[The T]

Fixed your quote function son.

Thank me.

Sadly, his inability to use the quote function was not corrected in your effort and it now reads as though I said something I never said.

Irritating, isn't it?

 

[Liability]

Fixed your quote function son.

Thank me.

Sadly, his inability to use the quote function was not corrected in your effort and it now reads as though I said something I never said.

Irritating, isn't it?

Hint to the always witless CausingPain: try closing the quote at the right spot, ala "[/quote]."

 

[Bfgrn]

The gilded age.

And what followed the Gilded Age? The Progressive Era.

Hopefully, but Obama is not a Roosevelt, Teddy or Franklin.

 

[regent]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

 

[The T]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

Statist wealth envy drivel. ^^^

 

[Bfgrn]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

LOL...and we even have pictures...

 

[GUNSIDEAUG]

AMERICAS WEALTH

WHAT LIBERALS PISS AWAY

Bill Maher: New York Democrats interviewed - YouTube

 

[Bfgrn]

What they have always tried to conserve...

When you understand what conservatism is, every argument they make leads to the same end.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

When you understand this and view their words, ask the question; will this lead to some form of an aristocracy?

The answer is always YES...


Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone
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[Full-Auto]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

That rant needs extensive work. Christ, chew on some crackers parrot, it may help.

 

[Liability]

What they have always tried to conserve...

When you understand what conservatism is, every argument they make leads to the same end.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

When you understand this and view their words, ask the question; will this lead to some form of an aristocracy?

The answer is always YES...


Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone
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Not that bigfuckindopeygrin is a liar or anything, but it is kind of a "tell" that he has to premise his "arguments" on deliberately false premises.

Conservatives do not seek -- and never have sought -- domination of society by an aristocracy of by anybody BUT the people and the law.

In reality (an alien notion to schmucks like bfgrn), a conservative seeks to limit the authority of government. It is the liberal who rails against such limits.

Liberalism, by contrast has not a single, solid, blessed thing to do with the trust of the people. That's just another convenient lie. And that "tempering" material? It ain't "prudence." It is the pathetic elitist statist thinking of a bunch of supercilious self-proclaimed "masterminds" (using Levin's description). Most dyed in the wool liberals assume they know better than the rest of us what we need. Liberalism is sanctimonious elitist paternalism on steroids.

 

[regent]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

That rant needs extensive work. Christ, chew on some crackers parrot, it may help.

So what are the conservatives trying to conserve?

 

[Liability]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

That rant needs extensive work. Christ, chew on some crackers parrot, it may help.

So what are the conservatives trying to conserve?

Already answered.

The fact that you don't know reveals a lot about you and many mindless drone liberals.

 

[Bfgrn]

What they have always tried to conserve...

When you understand what conservatism is, every argument they make leads to the same end.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

When you understand this and view their words, ask the question; will this lead to some form of an aristocracy?

The answer is always YES...


Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone
__________________

Not that bigfuckindopeygrin is a liar or anything, but it is kind of a "tell" that he has to premise his "arguments" on deliberately false premises.

Conservatives do not seek -- and never have sought -- domination of society by an aristocracy of by anybody BUT the people and the law.

In reality (an alien notion to schmucks like bfgrn), a conservative seeks to limit the authority of government. It is the liberal who rails against such limits.

Liberalism, by contrast has not a single, solid, blessed thing to do with the trust of the people. That's just another convenient lie. And that "tempering" material? It ain't "prudence." It is the pathetic elitist statist thinking of a bunch of supercilious self-proclaimed "masterminds" (using Levin's description). Most dyed in the wool liberals assume they know better than the rest of us what we need. Liberalism is sanctimonious elitist paternalism on steroids.

REALLY??? WHEN??? A conservative seeks to limit the liberal from having any say in government...PERIOD.

"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman

 

[Full-Auto]

The rich conservatives are trying to retain their wealth and lifestyle. The poor conservatives are trying to help the rich conservatives in the hope some crumbs drop the table. It's a new economic system the poor conservatives have devised to replace trickle down, called the drop down scramble for orts system.

That rant needs extensive work. Christ, chew on some crackers parrot, it may help.

So what are the conservatives trying to conserve?

Ask them?

I can say as a fiscal conservative, the dem position of any cut is extreme. Is fool hardy at best. A position that should place them as domestic enemies at worst.

Now parrot proceed.