What does the "far left" want for America?

[Wry Catcher]

The "far left" wants real world solutions for real world problems. Solutions based on science and hard data. As Carl Rove called us, "the reality based community".


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The far left is anti democratic and wants change now, no matter the consequences; thus it is little different than the far right. Liberals and progressives seek change via the democratic process and peaceful protests (many times infected by vandals and other miscreants and anarchists).

RINO's, i.e., moderate Republicans and moderate conservatives defend the status quo, but our open to debate on new ways to solve problems, they are out-shouted by the New Right who, much like the far left, eschew compromise.

Neither the far left or right seeks open debate and a full vetting of all parts/elements of the change they seek.

 

[kaz]

Liberals are now and have always been staunch advocates of capitalism and free markets.

Um...you may want to start actually reading the posts on this site. Read some of your own posts while you're at it. Liberals don't support capitalism or free markets at all. You do only when free markets do government's bidding. Maybe you just don't understand what the "free" in free markets means...

Liberals are private business owners, buy stocks and bonds, and engage in commerce just like all other Americans

There is a big difference actually, the rest of us don't vote for Marxists.

 

[billyerock1991]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold.

That the phrases are used interchangeably with "Marixts, "Communists", "Socialists" and other such words as pejoratives, and it is likely these economic theories are not understood and are not differentiated from political theories of governance by their users, I expect any of them who attempt to answer this question to default to personal attacks and or idiot-grams. But we will see, maybe one of them will actually think and respond substantively.

the terms were first used by richard nixon because he was getting exposed by the press ... to counter this exposure he countered with the phraase liberal press ... he felt that if he could get the people to buy into this he could get elected in 1960 .... so he tried to demonise every thing liberal or left and they are still doing to this day

 

[kaz]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

One of your dumber comments - one of many.

of course if it was dumb you'd be able to say why rather than call names like a child

If it wasn't dumb you would have posted evidence that I want to see the destruction of America and that I hold a vision of a world wide collective. I don't, thus you're both a liar and dumb.

Read any quote by Obama, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

 

[kaz]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold.

That the phrases are used interchangeably with "Marixts, "Communists", "Socialists" and other such words as pejoratives, and it is likely these economic theories are not understood and are not differentiated from political theories of governance by their users, I expect any of them who attempt to answer this question to default to personal attacks and or idiot-grams. But we will see, maybe one of them will actually think and respond substantively.

the terms were first used by richard nixon because he was getting exposed by the press ... to counter this exposure he countered with the phraase liberal press ... he felt that if he could get the people to buy into this he could get elected in 1960 .... so he tried to demonise every thing liberal or left and they are still doing to this day

And to this day, the press continues to prove him right. Being an asshole obviously didn't stop Nixon from being right sometimes.

You can't even handle the existence of non-left media. You think it's biased to have both sides even on a show. Other than the occasional single house broken conservative with a panel of liberals.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

One of your dumber comments - one of many.

of course if it was dumb you'd be able to say why rather than call names like a child

If it wasn't dumb you would have posted evidence that I want to see the destruction of America and that I hold a vision of a world wide collective. I don't, thus you're both a liar and dumb.

Read any quote by Obama, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

Post any comment I have made which advocates the destruction of America or that I have a vision for a world wide collective! You can't, so why not admit you lied? Then, do a little soul search, if you're honest to yourself, you may understand why I'm sure you're a member of the double digit IQ set.

 

[Redfish]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

One of your dumber comments - one of many.

of course if it was dumb you'd be able to say why rather than call names like a child

If it wasn't dumb you would have posted evidence that I want to see the destruction of America and that I hold a vision of a world wide collective. I don't, thus you're both a liar and dumb.

Read any quote by Obama, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

Post any comment I have made which advocates the destruction of America or that I have a vision for a world wide collective! You can't, so why not admit you lied? Then, do a little soul search, if you're honest to yourself, you may understand why I'm sure you're a member of the double digit IQ set.

WTF do you think "fundamentally transform" means?

 

[Mac1958]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

One of your dumber comments - one of many.

of course if it was dumb you'd be able to say why rather than call names like a child

If it wasn't dumb you would have posted evidence that I want to see the destruction of America and that I hold a vision of a world wide collective. I don't, thus you're both a liar and dumb.

Read any quote by Obama, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

Post any comment I have made which advocates the destruction of America or that I have a vision for a world wide collective! You can't, so why not admit you lied? Then, do a little soul search, if you're honest to yourself, you may understand why I'm sure you're a member of the double digit IQ set.

WTF do you think "fundamentally transform" means?

"Change"

"Fundamentally transform"

"Re-make"

Obama's words.

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[Wry Catcher]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

One of your dumber comments - one of many.

of course if it was dumb you'd be able to say why rather than call names like a child

If it wasn't dumb you would have posted evidence that I want to see the destruction of America and that I hold a vision of a world wide collective. I don't, thus you're both a liar and dumb.

Read any quote by Obama, Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi.

Post any comment I have made which advocates the destruction of America or that I have a vision for a world wide collective! You can't, so why not admit you lied? Then, do a little soul search, if you're honest to yourself, you may understand why I'm sure you're a member of the double digit IQ set.

WTF do you think "fundamentally transform" means?

Link: In context: What Obama said about "fundamentally transforming" the nation | PolitiFact


"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."

 

[billyerock1991]

The "far left" wants real world solutions for real world problems. Solutions based on science and hard data. As Carl Rove called us, "the reality based community".


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The far left is anti democratic and wants change now, no matter the consequences; thus it is little different than the far right. Liberals and progressives seek change via the democratic process and peaceful protests (many times infected by vandals and other miscreants and anarchists).

RINO's, i.e., moderate Republicans and moderate conservatives defend the status quo, but our open to debate on new ways to solve problems, they are out-shouted by the New Right who, much like the far left, eschew compromise.

Neither the far left or right seeks open debate and a full vetting of all parts/elements of the change they seek.

well said and I agree ... what has casue the left to be so far these days is the right will not compromise on anything... it's like your old boss, its my way or the highway ... with that kind of reality we on the left have to hold fast to what we have as we see the rights of the people slowly erode by the right ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold.

That the phrases are used interchangeably with "Marixts, "Communists", "Socialists" and other such words as pejoratives, and it is likely these economic theories are not understood and are not differentiated from political theories of governance by their users, I expect any of them who attempt to answer this question to default to personal attacks and or idiot-grams. But we will see, maybe one of them will actually think and respond substantively.

the terms were first used by richard nixon because he was getting exposed by the press ... to counter this exposure he countered with the phraase liberal press ... he felt that if he could get the people to buy into this he could get elected in 1960 .... so he tried to demonise every thing liberal or left and they are still doing to this day

And to this day, the press continues to prove him right. Being an asshole obviously didn't stop Nixon from being right sometimes.

You can't even handle the existence of non-left media. You think it's biased to have both sides even on a show. Other than the occasional single house broken conservative with a panel of liberals.

just becasue you have been brainwashed by the right doesn't mean I am brainwashed by the left... what the left represents I believe in .... I believe the air, water and the ground needs to be clear from toxins ... I believe you should get help from the governmenn when you need help... I believe that health care is a right ... I believe in having a strong defense ... I believe you should be able to defend your self with a weapon but not a weapon of war ... I believe you should be able to protest for what you believe in peacefully without being assulted by the police ... these are just a few things that I see the right trying to take away...

 

[kaz]

Just becasue you have been brainwashed by the right doesn't mean I am brainwashed by the left...

So Sparky, what is their fiendish plot exactly? Why are right wingers brainwashing people to be libertarians? That's some funky shit. Why do they do that? Scares the shit out of me.

LOL, you repeat the idiotic leftist talking point that everyone who's not a leftist like you is brainwashed by the right. showing you are brainwashed by the left.

what the left represents I believe in .... I believe the air, water and the ground needs to be clear from toxins ... I believe you should get help from the governmenn when you need help... I believe that health care is a right ... I believe in having a strong defense ... I believe you should be able to defend your self with a weapon but not a weapon of war ... I believe you should be able to protest for what you believe in peacefully without being assulted by the police ... these are just a few things that I see the right trying to take away...

When the nurse comes in to dress you, can you ask her to smack your head for me for being such a dumb ass?

 

[billyerock1991]

Those who support the Republican brand seem to use the phrase "far left" and "left wingers" to describe everyone who disagrees with the dogma they hold true. Since it makes no sense to use these phrases to describe ten of millions of Americans, maybe one of them who uses these phrases would describe the beliefs those who disagree with them hold

You want the destruction of America because it stands in the way of your vision of a world wide collective

The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

by adding programs that the majority of people wants doesn't makes you a socialist country just becasue the government runs it ... you on the right think if the governmenr runs a program its socialism, its not no one is advocating that we take your business away and have the government run it ... we on the left have never advocated it... we on the left see nothing wrong with the governement running a program that helps people... you on the right do ... I get it ... thats why we are liberals we aren't single minded

 

[billyerock1991]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



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you're nuts

 

[kaz]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



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you're nuts

You're ignorant, Obama has a long affiliation with Marxists

 

[billyerock1991]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



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you're nuts

You're ignorant, Obama has a long affiliation with Marxists

you can't debate with a person who is nuts, and pal you are nuts ...stark raving nuts...

 

[Wry Catcher]

So, can we put to rest the question, "What does the far left want?". For, when used by the New Right, the term "far left" is nothing more than a deprecating word; used by those who don't have the sense to think about the words they use.

I have defined the "far left" and the "far right", previously in this way:
"The far left is anti democratic and wants change now, no matter the consequences; thus it is little different than the far right. Liberals and progressives seek change via the democratic process and peaceful protests (many times infected by vandals and other miscreants and anarchists).

RINO's, i.e., moderate Republicans and moderate conservatives defend the status quo, but our open to debate on new ways to solve problems, they are out-shouted by the New Right who, much like the far left, eschew compromise.

Neither the far left or right seeks open debate and a full vetting of all parts/elements of the change they seek.

 

[Billy000]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



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you're nuts

You're ignorant, Obama has a long affiliation with Marxists

you can't debate with a person who is nuts, and pal you are nuts ...stark raving nuts...

This isn't nuts. This is willful ignorance. See it's easier for a republican to believe Obama is a Marxist because it makes it easier to demonize him and the left. It's easier for them to think in black and white terms like this because they aren't smart enough for nuance.

 

[kaz]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



.

you're nuts

You're ignorant, Obama has a long affiliation with Marxists

you can't debate with a person who is nuts, and pal you are nuts ...stark raving nuts...

Dude, it's a fact, it's not an opinion. His mother, father, mentor, professors, friends in college. His background is Marxist. Why does that bother you? You're a Marxist.

 

[Billy000]

Liberalism and 'socialism' are not 'the same.'

of course they are!! Obama is a liberal yet he had 3 commie parents and voted to left of Bernie Sanders, and open communist. He supports sinigle payer and to a lesser degree Obamacare. Our liberals spied for Stalin, a communist, and gave him the bomb.

the only liberal program is bigger and bigger govt. When Barry took offfice the govt was bigger than ever and yet his only idea was to make dramatically bigger still

The liberal idea is anti American which explains why our liberals sopied for Stalin!

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.-Thomas Jefferson



.

you're nuts

You're ignorant, Obama has a long affiliation with Marxists

you can't debate with a person who is nuts, and pal you are nuts ...stark raving nuts...

Dude, it's a fact, it's not an opinion. His mother, father, mentor, professors, friends in college. His background is Marxist. Why does that bother you? You're a Marxist.

So Billy and Obama are both Marxists yet for some bizarre reason he denies it? If he was a Marxist who supported a Marxist why wouldn't he just say "yeah I am a Marxist"?