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He's dead.No I don't.
I only believe in one G-D, and that G-D is not jesus
Then by all means simply serve one person each day without that person knowing. Don't worry about Jesus. Let Him worry about you, and you will be fine.
You are a douche bag.My, such emotion! One wonders why. One actually knows why. Ropey, such angst. Want to share? If not, please rant away. Please release it. Go ahead. We have the time.
Simply do something good for a person each day and make sure they don't know it is you doing the good. If it makes you feel better to use that language, please do if it helps release some of the anger.
This is the reason we as Jews should not get into these Christian discussions, No good can come of it in my opinion. Stay out of it let the Christians discuss it among themselves
My only comments involved defending Judaism .
That's why the Jews had him murdered, he gave the true gospel to the gentile after they abused it for so many years.
That's why the Jews had him murdered, he gave the true gospel to the gentile after they abused it for so many years.
You know I love you froggy, but that isn't my understanding at all. The Jews didn't see it as murder nor did they care about the gentiles. They saw it as stopping a Jew who was committing and teaching blasphemy. Jesus said he was God, claimed powers of God, claimed ability to empower others. That was blasphemy and unacceptable to an orthodox Jew. It's unacceptable or unbelievable to our Jewish friends now.
The Sadducees and Pharisees of Jesus's day weren't concerned about what Jesus told the gentiles. They were concerned about not allowing him to corrupt his own. Okay they were also ticked off at his accusations of them. Even after the crucifixion the man who would become the Apostle Paul was filled with hatred for all Jews who believed and accepted Jesus's teachings and was going about trying to stamp out the infestation growing within Judaism and was having some success until Jesus took care of that on the Damascus Road.
That's why the Jews had him murdered, he gave the true gospel to the gentile after they abused it for so many years.
You know I love you froggy, but that isn't my understanding at all. The Jews didn't see it as murder nor did they care about the gentiles. They saw it as stopping a Jew who was committing and teaching blasphemy. Jesus said he was God, claimed powers of God, claimed ability to empower others. That was blasphemy and unacceptable to an orthodox Jew. It's unacceptable or unbelievable to our Jewish friends now.
The Sadducees and Pharisees of Jesus's day weren't concerned about what Jesus told the gentiles. They were concerned about not allowing him to corrupt his own. Okay they were also ticked off at his accusations of them. Even after the crucifixion the man who would become the Apostle Paul was filled with hatred for all Jews who believed and accepted Jesus's teachings and was going about trying to stamp out the infestation growing within Judaism and was having some success until Jesus took care of that on the Damascus Road.
To reject the son of god will bring nothing but damnation on ones self.
You know I love you froggy, but that isn't my understanding at all. The Jews didn't see it as murder nor did they care about the gentiles. They saw it as stopping a Jew who was committing and teaching blasphemy. Jesus said he was God, claimed powers of God, claimed ability to empower others. That was blasphemy and unacceptable to an orthodox Jew. It's unacceptable or unbelievable to our Jewish friends now.
The Sadducees and Pharisees of Jesus's day weren't concerned about what Jesus told the gentiles. They were concerned about not allowing him to corrupt his own. Okay they were also ticked off at his accusations of them. Even after the crucifixion the man who would become the Apostle Paul was filled with hatred for all Jews who believed and accepted Jesus's teachings and was going about trying to stamp out the infestation growing within Judaism and was having some success until Jesus took care of that on the Damascus Road.
To reject the son of god will bring nothing but damnation on ones self.
I respect your beliefs froggy, but for myself I don't think damnation is the prerogative of the Christian to decide. Jesus himself said judge not lest you be judged meaning that we shouldn't presume to wander into territory God has reserved for Himself. And, I simply can't imagine anybody being introduced to the God of Love and Salvation by being told he or she is going to hell.
And never once did Jesus suggest that it was our job to 'save' anybody or 'condemn' anybody. In fact we can't. We can't merit salvation. We can't earn it. We can't buy it. That's God's job. Our job is to offer the introduction, but then we have to turn it over to Him to finish the project or deal with it as He will.
He had far more to say about loving one another and God's love for us and how we should respond to that more than he had anything else to say. I don't think we do Him much justice or honor Him when we focus on an angry God and make invisible the God who loves all, even those we might personally despise.
And never once did Jesus suggest that it was our job to 'save' anybody or 'condemn' anybody. In fact we can't. We can't merit salvation. We can't earn it. We can't buy it. That's God's job. Our job is to offer the introduction, but then we have to turn it over to Him to finish the project or deal with it as He will.
He had far more to say about loving one another and God's love for us and how we should respond to that more than he had anything else to say. I don't think we do Him much justice or honor Him when we focus on an angry God and make invisible the God who loves all, even those we might personally despise.
But he said we know other by the fruits they bear, I'm not condemning just say what i see.
And never once did Jesus suggest that it was our job to 'save' anybody or 'condemn' anybody. In fact we can't. We can't merit salvation. We can't earn it. We can't buy it. That's God's job. Our job is to offer the introduction, but then we have to turn it over to Him to finish the project or deal with it as He will.
He had far more to say about loving one another and God's love for us and how we should respond to that more than he had anything else to say. I don't think we do Him much justice or honor Him when we focus on an angry God and make invisible the God who loves all, even those we might personally despise.
But he said we know other by the fruits they bear, I'm not condemning just say what i see.
Yes, we are to judge right and wrong and lead by example. We are to speak out against and resist evil. But in my understanding, we are not privy to look into another's soul or know what his/her relationship is with God and that is not our job. I believe we won't scare or shame anybody into accepting Jesus and in fact I think many have been driven away from Him by the unpleasant or unattractive way in which He was introduced.
What do you respond to better? Straighten up and fly right or you're going to hell! - or - All have sinned and fallen short but Jesus loves us just the same, He wants the very best for us, and all we have to do is accept Him.
But he said we know other by the fruits they bear, I'm not condemning just say what i see.
Yes, we are to judge right and wrong and lead by example. We are to speak out against and resist evil. But in my understanding, we are not privy to look into another's soul or know what his/her relationship is with God and that is not our job. I believe we won't scare or shame anybody into accepting Jesus and in fact I think many have been driven away from Him by the unpleasant or unattractive way in which He was introduced.
What do you respond to better? Straighten up and fly right or you're going to hell! - or - All have sinned and fallen short but Jesus loves us just the same, He wants the very best for us, and all we have to do is accept Him.
But I've not try to make anyone accept God that's there decision to make, i am just instructed to tell others of Jesus. and the bible speaks plainly about hell.
Yes, we are to judge right and wrong and lead by example. We are to speak out against and resist evil. But in my understanding, we are not privy to look into another's soul or know what his/her relationship is with God and that is not our job. I believe we won't scare or shame anybody into accepting Jesus and in fact I think many have been driven away from Him by the unpleasant or unattractive way in which He was introduced.
What do you respond to better? Straighten up and fly right or you're going to hell! - or - All have sinned and fallen short but Jesus loves us just the same, He wants the very best for us, and all we have to do is accept Him.
But I've not try to make anyone accept God that's there decision to make, i am just instructed to tell others of Jesus. and the bible speaks plainly about hell.
Yes the Bible does speak of hell, but it has much much more to say about God's love, salvation, heaven and how to love people. I take that as my cue to focus on that.
But I've not try to make anyone accept God that's there decision to make, i am just instructed to tell others of Jesus. and the bible speaks plainly about hell.
Yes the Bible does speak of hell, but it has much much more to say about God's love, salvation, heaven and how to love people. I take that as my cue to focus on that.
That good. i love you dude in a Godly way.
And a Merry and blessed Christmas to you and all you love, froggy. 
And the question is why? Why would no one believe it now, but have no problem believing it happened in the past? Mike says it outright, Jen implies it but won't enter a discussion about it. Why? Religion is such an interesting thing.
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I've spent more time in this thread than any other thread running right now.
I already posted reasons. The prophesies all over the Old Testament outlined Jesus before He arrived, He fulfilled them, prophesied, all kinds of people died rather than recant what they saw, and then there's how He's impacted my life (Holy Spirit, etc).
There are prophesies of Jesus coming again but they're not anything like before.
Once again where is the
World peace
All the jews being brought to Israel
All the jews staying in Israel
The temple in jerusalem being rebuilt and standing forever
?
He's dead.No I don't.
I only believe in one G-D, and that G-D is not jesus
Then by all means simply serve one person each day without that person knowing. Don't worry about Jesus. Let Him worry about you, and you will be fine.
Yes. That is what every religion says. Congratulations.To reject the son of god will bring nothing but damnation on ones self.
By saying what you see, you are condemning. You are allowed to see and keep it to yourself. There seem to be two schools of thought in Christianity regarding the use of the bible as a hurtful weapon. You ought to take a lesson from Foxfyre, because you really aren't winning anyone over with talk of fire and brimstone. You're just trying to make yourself feel better.But he said we know other by the fruits they bear, I'm not condemning just say what i see.
You ought to take a lesson from Foxfyre, because you really aren't winning anyone over with talk of fire and brimstone. You're just trying to make yourself feel better.
This is the reason we as Jews should not get into these Christian discussions, No good can come of it in my opinion. Stay out of it let the Christians discuss it among themselves
