Do liberals even like this country?

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, that's why we try to stop their socialist polices; so we don't end up like another socialist country that you on the left love so dearly.

Socialism is controlling the means of production, prices

Doing things that help your people is not socialism

No, socialism is taking from people and redistributing it to others. Doing things that help your people is called charity--not government. Government is supposed to govern.

No, that is called living in a civilized society

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

You miss the point of civilization
There is both give and take

As a whole, everyone is better off

Sure. You give me your money, and I'd be better off too.

 

[rightwinger]

So when, in America, did government begin helping it's poor?

Bastards!

 

[rightwinger]

Socialism is controlling the means of production, prices

Doing things that help your people is not socialism

No, socialism is taking from people and redistributing it to others. Doing things that help your people is called charity--not government. Government is supposed to govern.

No, that is called living in a civilized society

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

You miss the point of civilization
There is both give and take

As a whole, everyone is better off

Sure. You give me your money, and I'd be better off too.

Yes, you are better off than you would be trying to survive as an individual
Too bad you are such a greedy bastard

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, socialism is taking from people and redistributing it to others. Doing things that help your people is called charity--not government. Government is supposed to govern.

No, that is called living in a civilized society

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

You miss the point of civilization
There is both give and take

As a whole, everyone is better off

Sure. You give me your money, and I'd be better off too.

Yes, you are better off than you would be trying to survive as an individual
Too bad you are such a greedy bastard

What's greedy about it?

 

[regent]

No, socialism is taking from people and redistributing it to others. Doing things that help your people is called charity--not government. Government is supposed to govern.

No, that is called living in a civilized society

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

You miss the point of civilization
There is both give and take

As a whole, everyone is better off

Sure. You give me your money, and I'd be better off too.

Yes, you are better off than you would be trying to survive as an individual
Too bad you are such a greedy bastard

Many people have given America even more than money. but money seems the most important thing.

 

[rightwinger]

No, that is called living in a civilized society

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

You miss the point of civilization
There is both give and take

As a whole, everyone is better off

Sure. You give me your money, and I'd be better off too.

Yes, you are better off than you would be trying to survive as an individual
Too bad you are such a greedy bastard

Many people have given America even more than money. but money seems the most important thing.

Very true

We belong to the greatest society ever created. Some, like poor Ray, only look at what is in it for me?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Liberals created this country in 1776

While the country at that time was the best our founders could do. Liberals realized we could do better......end slavery, women's rights, worker rights, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights.

Conservatives fought every inch of the way

Apparently, you're not a student of history.
The Emancipation Proclamation ended slavery (brought on by a republican president named Abraham Lincoln). The southern states which seceded from the union because slavery was financially advantageous to them and thus wanted to continue it, were democrats, not republicans.

 

[regent]

Was Lincoln a liberal as a number of authors have suggested?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

Fuck you asshole if you don't like it do not drive on the US Highway system...just fuck off Idiot

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Russia Collusion Case is Proven


Rolf Mowatt-Larssen served for 23 years in the CIA including in posts overseas. He was also the chief of intelligence and counterintelligence at the Department of Energy, with responsibility for safeguarding our nuclear stockpile. He probably knows what he’s talking about when he discusses spycraft.

I feel like his grasp of the cast of characters involved here could be a little stronger, and that would only improve what looks like some pretty solid analysis. Overall, I think he’s got the basics right. The Russians were looking to cash in on an already friendly relationship with Trump, but they were cautious and used this meeting as a way to test out how far they could go. After the meeting was concluded, they probably looked carefully for any signs that it had been reported and when they discovered that the whole thing had been covered up, they had a lot of freedom of action. They immediately went ahead with plans to leak the DNC documents. They negotiated a change in the Republican Party platform. Soon after, they watched in enjoyment as Trump denied any meetings or relationship with them, which gave them extra leverage. Thereafter, they always had the option of threatening to reveal that Trump (and his surrogates) had been lying.

I believe, although cannot prove, that they had sent Manafort to Trump with a hard offer to refuse. Manafort would work on his delegate count for no pay. Michael Flynn was already compromised because he hadn’t notified the Pentagon that he was taking tens of thousands of dollars from the Kremlin to make appearances on the Russian Today (RT) network and badmouth the Obama administration. The Trump campaign was therefore compromised six ways to Sunday by the time the summer had begun.

There’s a much longer list of characters who might have compromised themselves. Carter Page was let go because his activities were too obvious. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, has all kinds of relationships with pro-Russian Ukrainians and may have had secret meetings with Russians in Eastern Europe. Michael Caputo actually worked for the Kremlin in the 1990s. Boris Epshteyn was born in Moscow and toes their line. There’s the whole Felix Sater element that no one should ever forget. Trump’s foul-mouthed lawyer Marc Kasowitz also has represented Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and Sberbank, Russia’s largest state-owned bank.

I feel like I’m only scratching the surface here, because there are others who were only loosely affiliated with the campaign who were clearly in contact with the Russians seeking and receiving everything from Clinton’s private emails to hacked Democratic and state voter files.

The overall picture is clear. Russia wanted Trump to win and Trump wanted Russia’s help. The collusion was explicit, some of it is well-documented, and the defense is now that anybody would have done the same.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Russia Collusion Case is Proven


Rolf Mowatt-Larssen served for 23 years in the CIA including in posts overseas. He was also the chief of intelligence and counterintelligence at the Department of Energy, with responsibility for safeguarding our nuclear stockpile. He probably knows what he’s talking about when he discusses spycraft.

I feel like his grasp of the cast of characters involved here could be a little stronger, and that would only improve what looks like some pretty solid analysis. Overall, I think he’s got the basics right. The Russians were looking to cash in on an already friendly relationship with Trump, but they were cautious and used this meeting as a way to test out how far they could go. After the meeting was concluded, they probably looked carefully for any signs that it had been reported and when they discovered that the whole thing had been covered up, they had a lot of freedom of action. They immediately went ahead with plans to leak the DNC documents. They negotiated a change in the Republican Party platform. Soon after, they watched in enjoyment as Trump denied any meetings or relationship with them, which gave them extra leverage. Thereafter, they always had the option of threatening to reveal that Trump (and his surrogates) had been lying.

I believe, although cannot prove, that they had sent Manafort to Trump with a hard offer to refuse. Manafort would work on his delegate count for no pay. Michael Flynn was already compromised because he hadn’t notified the Pentagon that he was taking tens of thousands of dollars from the Kremlin to make appearances on the Russian Today (RT) network and badmouth the Obama administration. The Trump campaign was therefore compromised six ways to Sunday by the time the summer had begun.

There’s a much longer list of characters who might have compromised themselves. Carter Page was let go because his activities were too obvious. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, has all kinds of relationships with pro-Russian Ukrainians and may have had secret meetings with Russians in Eastern Europe. Michael Caputo actually worked for the Kremlin in the 1990s. Boris Epshteyn was born in Moscow and toes their line. There’s the whole Felix Sater element that no one should ever forget. Trump’s foul-mouthed lawyer Marc Kasowitz also has represented Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska and Sberbank, Russia’s largest state-owned bank.

I feel like I’m only scratching the surface here, because there are others who were only loosely affiliated with the campaign who were clearly in contact with the Russians seeking and receiving everything from Clinton’s private emails to hacked Democratic and state voter files.

The overall picture is clear. Russia wanted Trump to win and Trump wanted Russia’s help. The collusion was explicit, some of it is well-documented, and the defense is now that anybody would have done the same.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

Fuck you asshole if you don't like it do not drive on the US Highway system...just fuck off Idiot

No idiot, the highway system is funded by gasoline and diesel tax dollars. Everybody uses our roads by the way.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

Fuck you asshole if you don't like it do not drive on the US Highway system...just fuck off Idiot

No idiot, the highway system is funded by gasoline and diesel tax dollars. Everybody uses our roads by the way.

Taxes are theft as you wing nuts whine constantly...because you all are shit heads

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals created this country in 1776

While the country at that time was the best our founders could do. Liberals realized we could do better......end slavery, women's rights, worker rights, civil rights, environmental protections, gay rights.

Conservatives fought every inch of the way

Apparently, you're not a student of history.
The Emancipation Proclamation ended slavery (brought on by a republican president named Abraham Lincoln). The southern states which seceded from the union because slavery was financially advantageous to them and thus wanted to continue it, were democrats, not republicans.

Apparently you are not a student of history

You are not even able to tell the difference between Liberals/Conservatives and Democrats/Republicans

You actually believe Southern Democrats in 1860 were LIBERALS?

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

Fuck you asshole if you don't like it do not drive on the US Highway system...just fuck off Idiot

No idiot, the highway system is funded by gasoline and diesel tax dollars. Everybody uses our roads by the way.

Some benefit more than others

 

[Timmy]

63% of all registered democrats are on some form of government assistence not including social security
People who do not do much like to complain about the unfair advantages of those who do a lot and foot the bill

Can I get a link ?

How is "government assistance " defined?

Do your own work. Links are often lies and you know full well what government assistence is but nice try

Do your own work? Your the one throwing out bullshit numbers with nothing to back them up.

Typical righty MO . You just make shit up and can't handle it when called out.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Do your own work. Links are often lies and you know full well what government assistence is but nice try

You are a slimy piece of shit called out for posting horse shit ...you are a Typical Right wing Piece of Human excrement

 

[Timmy]

Yeah, a civilized society if you're a taker. When you're a giver, you look at it as theft.

Fuck you asshole if you don't like it do not drive on the US Highway system...just fuck off Idiot

No idiot, the highway system is funded by gasoline and diesel tax dollars. Everybody uses our roads by the way.

How socialist!

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I'm sure they far left loves this country. It's full of Useful Idiots who never read the Bill of Rights.

Even third worlders from down south, seem to know federalism better than most of the right wing, in the US.

Doubtful. Based on the alleged reasons why the left protests, they don't understand the Bill of Rights, are totally ignorant of what it says, or are enemies of the COTUS.

Most of those countries south of our federal border, are also federal republics. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Apparently you don't understand this is a constitutional republic. It's OK. Lots of folks are ignorant about our COTUS.

Posting the fucking results of the popular Election does not amount to "being ignorant of COTUS" you Right wing cry baby...you just do not like that being posted ...

 

[WEATHER53]

Do your own work. Links are often lies and you know full well what government assistence is but nice try

You are a slimy piece of shit called out for posting horse shit ...you are a Typical Right wing Piece of Human excrement

Potty mouth shit for brains