"What is the Democrats' message?"

[Hutch Starskey]

we all know america sells only about 154 billion to china and most of the meat planes etc are targeted at red states And imo the chinese citizen is far more adept at living in pain than even redstate crackers

those products will be sold to US markets. there is no pain involved, dingleberry.

They will be sold in US markets. At what pricepoint?

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

That's inflation.
That's pain.

 

[Redfish]

OK, jelly. does china sell more to America or does America sell more to china? Hint: the country selling the most has the most to lose in a trade war.

The education of redfish
Why China’s soybean tariffs matter
April 5, 2018 6.46am EDT
A farmer harvest his soybean field in Loami, Ill. AP Photo/Seth Perlman
Aut
China’s plan to levy a 25 percent tariff on imports of U.S. soybeans may come as something of a surprise to most Americans. But to a professor of agricultural economics who studies international commodity markets for a living, this was not at all unexpected.

Even before the conclusion of the 2016 presidential race, trade analysts were already weighing the possibility that China might impose an embargo on U.S. soybean imports based on protectionist rhetoric from both candidates.

And now that risk of a trade war is reality, and American soybean farmers may be among the biggest losers.

Soybeans are a crucial part of the global food chain, particularly as a source of protein in the production of hogs and poultry.

In 2016, the U.S. accounted for US$22.8 billion worth of global soybean exports, the most of any country. Its nearest competitor is Brazil, which exported $21 billion.


Meanwhile, China accounts for the lion’s share of global soybean imports at $34 billion, or two-thirds of the total.

American exports made up about a third of that, or $12.4 billion, making soybeans the United States’ second-most valuable export to China after varieties of airplanes.


The importance of China as a market for soybeans has been driven by an explosion in demand for meat as consumers switch from a diet dominated by rice to one where pork, poultry and beef play an important part. Chinese production of meat from those three animals surged 250 percent from 1986 to 2012 and is projected to increase another 30 percent by the end of the current decade. However, China is unable to produce enough animal feed itself, hence the need to import soybeans from the United States and Brazil.

That’s why the tariffs have tremendous potential to hurt farmers here in Ohio, where soybeans are the number one agricultural export at $1.4 billion. China is the state’s largest export market.

And Ohio is just the sixth-largest exporter of soybeans, after Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana and Nebraska, all of which will suffer from the tariffs.

Not only do farmers stand to lose out by giving up market share to Brazilian farmers, but soybean prices will probably fall as well, hurting incomes and creating a double whammy for Midwest farms.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

 

[Redfish]

OK, jelly. does china sell more to America or does America sell more to china? Hint: the country selling the most has the most to lose in a trade war.

Great. Losing anything is putting us worse off then before, fool. Rising prices will negate any gains made through tax cuts.

So to recap, Trump gave us deficit expanding tax cuts and then created artificial inflation that swallows up those gains. He's raised our national debt considerably for no gains.
Brilliant!

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors. Do you think its fair that Germany puts a 100% tariff on Harley Davidson motorcycles sold in Germany? But we don't put tariffs on Mercedes or BMWs?

I think you, not unlike Trump, have no idea of how any of this works.

You did not answer his very on topic question about tariffs on motorcycles.

It's irrelevant without understanding the rationale behind that deal.

the rationale????????? are you an idiot? to sell german motorcycles in Germany and keep Harley Davidson out of the German market.

 

[Redfish]

those products will be sold to US markets. there is no pain involved, dingleberry.

They will be sold in US markets. At what pricepoint?

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

That's inflation.
That's pain.

there ain't no free lunch, dude. welcome to the real world.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The education of redfish
Why China’s soybean tariffs matter
April 5, 2018 6.46am EDT
A farmer harvest his soybean field in Loami, Ill. AP Photo/Seth Perlman
Aut
China’s plan to levy a 25 percent tariff on imports of U.S. soybeans may come as something of a surprise to most Americans. But to a professor of agricultural economics who studies international commodity markets for a living, this was not at all unexpected.

Even before the conclusion of the 2016 presidential race, trade analysts were already weighing the possibility that China might impose an embargo on U.S. soybean imports based on protectionist rhetoric from both candidates.

And now that risk of a trade war is reality, and American soybean farmers may be among the biggest losers.

Soybeans are a crucial part of the global food chain, particularly as a source of protein in the production of hogs and poultry.

In 2016, the U.S. accounted for US$22.8 billion worth of global soybean exports, the most of any country. Its nearest competitor is Brazil, which exported $21 billion.


Meanwhile, China accounts for the lion’s share of global soybean imports at $34 billion, or two-thirds of the total.

American exports made up about a third of that, or $12.4 billion, making soybeans the United States’ second-most valuable export to China after varieties of airplanes.


The importance of China as a market for soybeans has been driven by an explosion in demand for meat as consumers switch from a diet dominated by rice to one where pork, poultry and beef play an important part. Chinese production of meat from those three animals surged 250 percent from 1986 to 2012 and is projected to increase another 30 percent by the end of the current decade. However, China is unable to produce enough animal feed itself, hence the need to import soybeans from the United States and Brazil.

That’s why the tariffs have tremendous potential to hurt farmers here in Ohio, where soybeans are the number one agricultural export at $1.4 billion. China is the state’s largest export market.

And Ohio is just the sixth-largest exporter of soybeans, after Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana and Nebraska, all of which will suffer from the tariffs.

Not only do farmers stand to lose out by giving up market share to Brazilian farmers, but soybean prices will probably fall as well, hurting incomes and creating a double whammy for Midwest farms.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

You're not very good at this after "40 years".
Invalid assumption?
You've been shown that China is the largest importer of soybeans. If they opt to get them cheaper from elsewhere, where are US farmers making up that lost market share?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They will be sold in US markets. At what pricepoint?

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

That's inflation.
That's pain.

there ain't no free lunch, dude. welcome to the real world.

Say goodbye to that sweet $1200 tax cut.

 

[edward37]

And lesson for dummies red
Were China to want to match Trump’s latest threat, it wouldn’t have enough American goods imports to target. It could take other measures like curbing package tours or student transfers to the U.S., or hamper American companies operating in China.

“This is starting to feel like the beginnings of a trade war, if simply each proposal is matched with a retaliation,” said Patrick Bennett, a Hong Kong-based strategist at Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. “The U.S. risks isolating itself from global trade in this process and we think the U.S., USD and U.S. asset markets have more to lose.”

we would win a trade war and china would lose. previous presidents have allowed china to win and help put this country in huge debt to china, Trump is trying to reverse that.

We don't need Chinese products to survive, but they need American food to survive. We have all the leverage here to stop the unfair advantage they have had for far too long.

how do you win a trade war, trump loon? and how do you think you're better able to gauge the effects of a trade war than actual smart people who are trained in economics.

hint: you can't.

OK, jelly. does china sell more to America or does America sell more to china? Hint: the country selling the most has the most to lose in a trade war.

Great. Losing anything is putting us worse off then before, fool. Rising prices will negate any gains made through tax cuts.

So to recap, Trump gave us deficit expanding tax cuts and then created artificial inflation that swallows up those gains. He's raised our national debt considerably for no gains.
Brilliant!

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors. Do you think its fair that Germany puts a 100% tariff on Harley Davidson motorcycles sold in Germany? But we don't put tariffs on Mercedes or BMWs?

you do understand that once China goes elsewhere for soybeans etc etc etc we may never get that business again ?AND if you hit those farmers in their pockets who do you think they'll be voting for?......remember MONEY talks loudly

 

[Redfish]

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

You're not very good at this after "40 years".
Invalid assumption?
You've been shown that China is the largest importer of soybeans. If they opt to get them cheaper from elsewhere, where are US farmers making up that lost market share?

true, and those American farmers may have to adapt to that changing market. Do you think American soil wont grow anything except soybeans?

 

[Redfish]

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

That's inflation.
That's pain.

there ain't no free lunch, dude. welcome to the real world.

Say goodbye to that sweet $1200 tax cut.

maybe, maybe not. depends on how much competition is involved in any specific product.

 

[edward37]

The education of redfish
Why China’s soybean tariffs matter
April 5, 2018 6.46am EDT
A farmer harvest his soybean field in Loami, Ill. AP Photo/Seth Perlman
Aut
China’s plan to levy a 25 percent tariff on imports of U.S. soybeans may come as something of a surprise to most Americans. But to a professor of agricultural economics who studies international commodity markets for a living, this was not at all unexpected.

Even before the conclusion of the 2016 presidential race, trade analysts were already weighing the possibility that China might impose an embargo on U.S. soybean imports based on protectionist rhetoric from both candidates.

And now that risk of a trade war is reality, and American soybean farmers may be among the biggest losers.

Soybeans are a crucial part of the global food chain, particularly as a source of protein in the production of hogs and poultry.

In 2016, the U.S. accounted for US$22.8 billion worth of global soybean exports, the most of any country. Its nearest competitor is Brazil, which exported $21 billion.


Meanwhile, China accounts for the lion’s share of global soybean imports at $34 billion, or two-thirds of the total.

American exports made up about a third of that, or $12.4 billion, making soybeans the United States’ second-most valuable export to China after varieties of airplanes.


The importance of China as a market for soybeans has been driven by an explosion in demand for meat as consumers switch from a diet dominated by rice to one where pork, poultry and beef play an important part. Chinese production of meat from those three animals surged 250 percent from 1986 to 2012 and is projected to increase another 30 percent by the end of the current decade. However, China is unable to produce enough animal feed itself, hence the need to import soybeans from the United States and Brazil.

That’s why the tariffs have tremendous potential to hurt farmers here in Ohio, where soybeans are the number one agricultural export at $1.4 billion. China is the state’s largest export market.

And Ohio is just the sixth-largest exporter of soybeans, after Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana and Nebraska, all of which will suffer from the tariffs.

Not only do farmers stand to lose out by giving up market share to Brazilian farmers, but soybean prices will probably fall as well, hurting incomes and creating a double whammy for Midwest farms.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

China has many ways to inflict pain on America ,financial pain among them ,tourists ,colleges etc etc

 

[Redfish]

we would win a trade war and china would lose. previous presidents have allowed china to win and help put this country in huge debt to china, Trump is trying to reverse that.

We don't need Chinese products to survive, but they need American food to survive. We have all the leverage here to stop the unfair advantage they have had for far too long.

how do you win a trade war, trump loon? and how do you think you're better able to gauge the effects of a trade war than actual smart people who are trained in economics.

hint: you can't.

OK, jelly. does china sell more to America or does America sell more to china? Hint: the country selling the most has the most to lose in a trade war.

Great. Losing anything is putting us worse off then before, fool. Rising prices will negate any gains made through tax cuts.

So to recap, Trump gave us deficit expanding tax cuts and then created artificial inflation that swallows up those gains. He's raised our national debt considerably for no gains.
Brilliant!

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors. Do you think its fair that Germany puts a 100% tariff on Harley Davidson motorcycles sold in Germany? But we don't put tariffs on Mercedes or BMWs?

you do understand that once China goes elsewhere for soybeans etc etc etc we may never get that business again ?AND if you hit those farmers in their pockets who do you think they'll be voting for?......remember MONEY talks loudly

so you would favor supporting Chinese companies over American companies in order to keep your meager budget from being impacted?

Reducing the amount of Chinese products sold in this country will create American jobs. Yes, people do vote their pocketbook and having a job makes your pocketbook fuller.

 

[ptbw forever]

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

China has many ways to inflict pain on America ,financial pain among them ,tourists ,colleges etc etc

I am sure the tourists would rather go to Europe and get stabbed or shot to death in the hellholes Merkel has created....

 

[Redfish]

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

so those farmers my have to grow something else to sell in the US market. Its called adapting to change and dealing with reality. the government is not responsible to guaranty any market for US farmers.

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

China has many ways to inflict pain on America ,financial pain among them ,tourists ,colleges etc etc

Chinese tourists?????????? Chinese paying tuition to US colleges??????????

where do you get this crap?

 

[edward37]

we all know america sells only about 154 billion to china and most of the meat planes etc are targeted at red states And imo the chinese citizen is far more adept at living in pain than even redstate crackers

those products will be sold to US markets. there is no pain involved, dingleberry.

They will be sold in US markets. At what pricepoint?

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

Get ready for that $500 pair of Italian shoes

 

[Redfish]

Back to the OP.

the democrats message:

we hate anyone who disagrees with us and we will silence you violently
we love illegals and hate American citizens
we want bigger more intrusive federal government
we want to punish success and reward failure
the USA is inherently evil
only criminals and the government should have guns
police are our enemies
we don't need borders, let everyone in
everything should be free, free, free, free

 

[edward37]

So then. Tell us some more about Obama's "war on coal" and why it was so awful.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

not the same. He was trying to tax US coal companies out of business. Trump is trying to put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

Equal footing?

By pricing them out of the market?

So, it's not the same because Trump is too stupid to know he's doing it deliberately?
Got it?

you are making an invalid assumption that American companies need to sell in china in order to survive----------they don't. But Chinese companies do need to sell in America in order to survive. We have all the leverage in this, previous presidents just haven't had the balls to use it.

China has many ways to inflict pain on America ,financial pain among them ,tourists ,colleges etc etc

Chinese tourists?????????? Chinese paying tuition to US colleges??????????

where do you get this crap?

what if China shut them down no tourists no students wreck havoc with our monetary system ?? Why can't you see the problems any further than your nose?

 

[Redfish]

those products will be sold to US markets. there is no pain involved, dingleberry.

They will be sold in US markets. At what pricepoint?

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

More evidence that you have no idea.

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors.

You just said that tariffs bring cheaper foreign goods up to the price of American goods.

That's a price increase. Inflation.

equal or less than the foreign products. so the consumer decides based on quality, not price.

By your logic, the price is the same.

yes, the prices would be very close. that's the point.

and yes, it may mean that americans have to pay a little more and cannot buy cheap Chinese knockoffs any more.

Get ready for that $500 pair of Italian shoes

I don't know why you keep saying that, just buy shoes made in the USA. You can buy $500 Italian shoes right now, just go to Saks or Neiman Marcus.

what is your obsession with shoes? foot fetish?

 

[edward37]

Back to the OP.

the democrats message:

we hate anyone who disagrees with us and we will silence you violently
we love illegals and hate American citizens
we want bigger more intrusive federal government
we want to punish success and reward failure
the USA is inherently evil
only criminals and the government should have guns
police are our enemies
we don't need borders, let everyone in
everything should be free, free, free, free

now you're just shoveling bs

 

[Flash]

The reason that Crooked Hillary lost was that she had no message Americans wanted to hear.

The idiot ran on a far Left platform to have open borders, demonize the NRA, bring in a million Muslims, raise taxes and curtail the right to keep and bear arms. Who in their right mind would vote for somebody like that? Only the illegals, welfare queens, Moon Bats and queers.

The funny thing as bat shit crazy Libtard that she was she was less crazy than the other Democrat running.

The reason that Crooked Hillary lost was that she had no message Americans wanted to hear.

Such as?

She ran on the exact same platform as dems always have. Trump co-opted it and drowned her out with "crooked hillary" and " lock her up".

...and that platform over the last few decades has been batshit crazy Left wing.

That asshole Slick Willy won on a plurality with a split conservative vote. That piece of shit Obama was a one trick pony bringing out all the Negroes to vote for their soul brother. How disgusting was that?

Crooked Hillary didn't even do a good job preaching that Democrat hate, thievery and divisiveness. Commie Bernie was better at that vile message than she was although she tried. Thank goodness for her incompetency.

Democrats only win when conservatives stay at home because the alternatives like Bush Sr, McCain and Romney are RINOs.

The Democrats are pretty much the scum of this country and Crooked Hillary represented that scum very well..

The message of the Democrats is "we will steal money on your behalf". Sometimes their are enough greedy Americans to elect Democrats.

The Democrats are for open borders because they need to import welfare queens for their base.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Great. Losing anything is putting us worse off then before, fool. Rising prices will negate any gains made through tax cuts.

So to recap, Trump gave us deficit expanding tax cuts and then created artificial inflation that swallows up those gains. He's raised our national debt considerably for no gains.
Brilliant!

Do you understand that American jobs are impacted when a foreign country sells the same product for less than the US companies? Tariffs just put US companies on an equal footing with their foreign competitors. Do you think its fair that Germany puts a 100% tariff on Harley Davidson motorcycles sold in Germany? But we don't put tariffs on Mercedes or BMWs?

I think you, not unlike Trump, have no idea of how any of this works.

You did not answer his very on topic question about tariffs on motorcycles.

It's irrelevant without understanding the rationale behind that deal.

the rationale????????? are you an idiot? to sell german motorcycles in Germany and keep Harley Davidson out of the German market.

Yes, rationale.

Why is that happening?

What precipitated that move?

Was Trump responsible?